Poll: Simpson PJ2 2-band Re-Knot: standard 2-band or Manchurian?
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 02-13-2013, 08:12 AM
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Hi Guys,

My Simpson PJ2 2-band that I purchased about 2 years ago has started to shed 10-15 hairs per shave, so I've decided to send it back to Simpson to get it re-knotted. The dilemma before me now is whether to go for the standard 2-band hair or to pay extra for a Manchurian knot. I've read a few threads comparing the two hair grades, but I've been unable to reach a definitive conclusion, so I thought I'd post a poll to assist me with the decision.

Which hair grade do you prefer?

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 02-13-2013, 08:45 AM
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Which characteristics do you prefer: very soft tips, no scritch, and good backbone (2-band) OR tips with more of a face feel, slight scritch, and great backbone (manchurian). YMMV of course.

I don't think the difference is as distinct as 2-band vs 3-band, but it's definitely there. If you want something soft and luxurious with good backbone, go for 2-band. If you like more of a scrubby feeling where you can feel the hairs more, go for manchurian. I suppose I have basically repeated myself, hope that helps.

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 02-13-2013, 09:06 AM
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That definitely helps; thanks for your input. The characteristics I prefer really vary from day to day - sometimes I want total softness, other times I want a bit of scritch - so I'm sure I'd be satisfied with either, but I think the Manchurian sounds a little more up my alley at the moment.

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 02-13-2013, 10:18 AM
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I would go with the Manchurian, especially if your circumstance allows you to get a good price. I wouldn't want to be without a really soft 2-band, but those are easier to come by (Rooney Heritage is my choice). If you have any experience with Rooney Finest, I'd tell you the Manchurian is not near that level of scritch or roughness. I do feel that it is soft "enough" to not garner complaints and feel pretty good but it also gives you enough of an exfoliation to satisfy that itch as well. I think it's a really well rounded grade of hair.

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 02-13-2013, 11:53 AM
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If your brush is stamped super, i would go 2 band.

If you want a Manchurian, why not get one made out right so it could be stamped right and save the handle for another day?

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 02-13-2013, 12:18 PM
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Ferris Bueller's Manchurian Badger: "If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up"

Ok, I don't have one, but I do want one, therefore you should too Biggrin

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 02-13-2013, 12:24 PM
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(02-13-2013, 11:53 AM)Dipesh Wrote: If your brush is stamped super, i would go 2 band.

If you want a Manchurian, why not get one made out right so it could be stamped right and save the handle for another day?

Well, the mismatched stamping isn't too much of a concern for me. Also, I haven't asked Mark how much a new PJ2 Manchurian would cost, but, based on the prices I've seen on other Manchurian brushes, I'm guessing it would be a good bit more expensive than the re-knot. However, now that you bring it up, I'll ask him what the difference would be.

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 02-13-2013, 07:03 PM
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Good luck, Mike.

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 02-14-2013, 09:54 AM
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  • Attila
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Best of luck Mike. Having never used a Simpson Manchurian myself I can't comment. But a good 2 band is always welcome in my own den and I do love the hair type. At least if you use your soap to shave, you'll get great protection! Biggrin

I'm a HUGE fan of your soaps! Sorry I digress...

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 02-14-2013, 10:36 AM
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I ended up going for the Manchurian hair. I've shipped the brush to the Isle of Man out so now the waiting begins. I'm very curious about this hair; I'm really looking forward to trying it out. Thanks again to everyone for your input.

(02-14-2013, 09:54 AM)Attila Wrote: Best of luck Mike. Having never used a Simpson Manchurian myself I can't comment. But a good 2 band is always welcome in my own den and I do love the hair type. At least if you use your soap to shave, you'll get great protection! Biggrin

I'm a HUGE fan of your soaps! Sorry I digress...

Thanks, Attila! Biggrin

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 03-15-2013, 12:46 PM
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The mail lady just dropped my newly re-knotted PJ2 off. Looking forward to giving it a try tomorrow morning.

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 03-15-2013, 01:15 PM
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It looks great! I hope you enjoy it and share some bloom photos.

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 03-15-2013, 01:29 PM
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Great looking brush, Mike!
Wow, you went with the Manchurian! Best of luck with it.

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 03-15-2013, 01:58 PM
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(03-15-2013, 01:15 PM)rts9364 Wrote: It looks great! I hope you enjoy it and share some bloom photos.

Thanks! I'll put up some post-bloom shots tomorrow.

(03-15-2013, 01:29 PM)celestino Wrote: Great looking brush, Mike!
Wow, you went with the Manchurian! Best of luck with it.

Thanks, Celestino!

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 03-16-2013, 04:16 AM
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Some bloom action for you Smile

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 03-18-2013, 04:30 AM
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  • ben74
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Beautiful brush Mike. I am a self confessed fan of Manchurian. The knots are often smaller than the equivalent 2 band. However, I find them to have improved backbone, feel denser, more compact knot, less bloom, improved flow through and sensation as well as tip softness. In other words... Good choice!

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 03-18-2013, 05:52 AM
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(03-18-2013, 04:30 AM)ben74 Wrote: Beautiful brush Mike. I am a self confessed fan of Manchurian. The knots are often smaller than the equivalent 2 band. However, I find them to have improved backbone, feel denser, more compact knot, less bloom, improved flow through and sensation as well as tip softness. In other words... Good choice!

Thanks, Ben! I haven't tried the current Simpson 2-band, so I can't make that comparison, but I can say that the Manchurian is excellent. I find it to have pleasantly firm - but by no means extreme - backbone and silky soft tips that still allow for individual hairs to be felt. I also find the flow through to be very good. It manages to be simultaneously balanced/utilitarian and novel.

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 03-18-2013, 07:21 AM
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  • ben74
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Wonderful summation and no doubt the perfect pairing with your soaps!

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 03-19-2013, 07:50 AM
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(03-18-2013, 07:21 AM)ben74 Wrote: Wonderful summation and no doubt the perfect pairing with your soaps!

Well put.

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 03-19-2013, 09:59 AM
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(03-18-2013, 07:21 AM)ben74 Wrote: Wonderful summation and no doubt the perfect pairing with your soaps!

(03-19-2013, 07:50 AM)Attila Wrote: Well put.

Thanks, guys Smile

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