03-13-2013, 05:37 PM
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Ok, I admit it. I don't know much about brushes.

I've been using a silvertip badger brush that I got in a set with my first DE razor last year. I think its pretty nice, makes and holds lots of lather. But I wanted to try something different, something with more backbone and more 'scritchy'. I bought a Semogue 1305 recently. It's also a nice brush, and it is a little more stiff, but the bristles are sort of long and floppy. Not quite what I was looking for. Now, I don't want a pin cushion for my brush, but I'd like (or I think I'd like) a stiff brush. Especially for face lathering, which I've been doing more often than not, lately.

Without spending an arm and a leg, what's a good brush that might fit this bill? Either as to the general type of brush (badger, boar, horse, porcupine), size, brand-name/model, whatever? Or am I just crazy in wanting a stiffer, scratchier brush?

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 03-13-2013, 05:41 PM
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Semogue Owners Club 2-band badger

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 03-13-2013, 05:47 PM
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(03-13-2013, 05:37 PM)Phaedris Wrote: Without spending an arm and a leg, what's a good brush that might fit this bill? Either as to the general type of brush (badger, boar, horse, porcupine), size, brand-name/model, whatever? Or am I just crazy in wanting a stiffer, scratchier brush?

Black badger. Untrimmed tops.

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 03-13-2013, 05:48 PM
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I haven't used nearly as many brushes as most here, but I would say just get an Omega Pro 48. Nice and stiff and the best thing is you're only out about $15 if you don't like it.

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 03-13-2013, 05:53 PM
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  • Crag
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I personally like the Prince 2-band from Wet Shaving Products. I also have a Monarch 2-band on the way and am sure that one will please as well. Another good brush for the money is a Frank Shaving 2-band, but with the way E bay is selling them they are not that inexpensive anymore. You used to to be able to find them around $25 shipped, but they are well above that now due to demand from the Forums for 2-band brushes.

You can also visit Bob at Elite Razors or contact Rudy Vey to see what they can make for you. If you want to try and make your own you can contact Tony at the Golden Nib and see what he has. In the higher price-range there is also Thater, Simpson (Mark)or shavemac (Bernd), but those are high ticket brushes. If you could get a hold of a 2-band Grosvenor that Phill(BullGoose) sold a few years ago then you'd have a great brush!

Another is the Semogue SOC in Cherry for me, but that's about the extent of my boar knowledge... My SOC was prickly as heck when I first got it...

I know there are a ton of other options for brushes but these are my personal Favorites, and as always your mileage may vary!

Good Luck in your search!

Matt

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 03-13-2013, 05:55 PM
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(03-13-2013, 05:41 PM)SharpSpine Wrote: Semogue Owners Club 2-band badger

+1

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 03-13-2013, 05:56 PM
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Semogue SOC 2012 SE Badger/Boar mix.

For $75 you get ample backbone, a little scritch and NO flop!

Available here...

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 03-13-2013, 06:43 PM
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I believe the 1305 has longer bristles.

Look for a boar with 45-50mm bristles. You might not think 55mm bristles make much of a difference but it's huge IMO.

50mm bristles:
Semogue 610, 620, 1438, 1460 are all good

Omega 15047 is an example of a good 45mm boar. It's a travel brush but it would be equally at home in the shave cave.

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 03-13-2013, 08:59 PM
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Quote:Black badger. Untrimmed tops.

+1 Black or pure badger should do the trick; scratchy as heck

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 03-13-2013, 09:25 PM
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Another vote for black badger (or pure badger).

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 03-14-2013, 01:12 AM
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(03-13-2013, 05:56 PM)ben74 Wrote: Semogue SOC 2012 SE Badger/Boar mix.

For $75 you get ample backbone, a little scritch and NO flop!

Available here...

Was just about to recommend this, but of course the Brush connoisseur, Ben, got there first Smile

I also recommend the Semogue SOC 2013 Badger/boar mix.
You can't go wrong for that price - the cheapest brush in my collection by far, and what a performer it is. I actually bought a backup of it - it's that great Cool

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 03-14-2013, 04:02 AM
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You've already had a lot of great advice from fellows with far more experience than me. I'm almost afraid to throw in my own two cents. The thought of a scratchier brush though... nothing wrong with it and I felt compelled to volunteer because I just sold my starter, which was a Pure badger, and I almost miss it. Smile In its own way, it was perfect. It exfoliated very well. Better than the 'Best' & 'Silvertip' brushes that I still have. They're good but a little scritch is a fine thing and these better brushes don't have enough of it. That said... I'll reco the inexpensive Vulfix 1000A. There's a world of good brushes to meet your requirements. Just thought I'd throw out one more choice that might be worth investigating.

[Image: 1000a.jpg]

[Image: latherup.jpg]

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 03-14-2013, 11:20 AM
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You mention "stiff" and "scritchy" which are not the same thing. You can get a good stiff brush with little to no scritch, like the WSP Prince in Finest or Monarch in superfine. A nice Simpson brush w/ a dense knot and Best Badger hair is similar, like my Commodore X2.

If you want scritchiness, like light scratching/poking on your face, I'd suggest the Semogue SOC 2-band (gently scritchy), a horse hair brush (a bit more serious scritchiness) or pure badger (punishment from the shaving gods).

My pure badger brush combined scritchiness and floppiness for the worst of both worlds.

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 03-14-2013, 05:33 PM
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Thanks for all the ideas. You make me realize how little I know about brushes. I don't think I've heard of black badger before. I've got some learning to do! It's great to have all these suggestions to look into.

Thanks!

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 03-14-2013, 05:39 PM
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(03-14-2013, 05:33 PM)Phaedris Wrote: Thanks for all the ideas. You make me realize how little I know about brushes. I don't think I've heard of black badger before. I've got some learning to do! It's great to have all these suggestions to look into.

Thanks!

You can start here: Primer on badger hair

And then you can photo browse the different badger grades here

Sorry it only includes WSP hair grades, but you can get an idea of what's out there.

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