04-06-2012, 05:11 PM
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  • Teiste
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[Image: P1220615.jpg]

These are some of the most famous safety razors made (I believe) for the same company for Edwin Jagger and Muhle.

The razors have different finish and handle styles,however they are all elegant and share the same closed comb head.

Lets check their weight first :

-Edwin Jagger DE8911 "Barley" has a weight of 79 grams :

[Image: P1220611.jpg]

-Edwin Jagger DE89 has a weight of 73 grams :

[Image: P1220612.jpg]

-Edwin Jagger DE89L has a weight of 75 grams :

[Image: P1220614.jpg]

-Muhle R 89 has a weight of 64 grams,being almost 10 grams lighter than the DE89 and 15 than the DE8911 :

[Image: P1220613.jpg]

Each razor has a different handle pattern/style :

-The Edwin Jagger DE89 has a smooth and flat handle,and some people are afraid that the razor handle could slip their fingers while theyre shaving with it.Well,I have never experience that,even when my hands and fingers are wet with this one or the DE87 (Ivory imitation handle) and the DE86 (black handle )

[Image: edwinjaggerde8913322zoo.jpg]

The DE89 is a well made razor,not as heavier than the DE8911 or the DE89L,but with an good balance.

-The Edwin Jagger DE89L has a "flutted" knurling handle (correct me if I'm wrong, since I'm using google translate for the word Im looking for to describe the handle of this razor) and it seems that it would give you a better grip than the DE89,but to me,they are both almost the same.Yes,its nice to see that pattern on the handle but I dont think it makes that much difference when you hold it.But some people like it better this way.

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Its weight its almost perfect for me,but I think I like the DE8911 a little bit better, since its 4 grams heavier.The balance is also good,having most of its the weight on the close comb head.

-The Muhle R 89 has a deep knurling handle,which its a beauty to see.Its the lightest one of the all 4 and also the most expensive one,65 dollars.It shines a lot and has,for me,the most elegant design too.

[Image: P1220045.jpg]

Of course it feels "lighter" than the other ones,but its balance is still there,having almost a lot of its weight on the head.

-The Edwin Jagger DE8911 is the heaviest one of the 4 and also has a different knurling,called "Barley",which is not as "deep" as the one on the Muhle,but its also more "refined".The end of its handle has a small "ball" which reminds me of the Old Type Gillettes :

[Image: P1220604.jpg]

This razor has also a good grip,good balance and perfect weight for me.Also is the one that most shavers like among the Edwin Jagger/Muhle classic style safety razors.

[Image: P1220606.jpg]

All these razors provides excellent shaves and have elegant designs.Its a question of personal preference (style,type of knurling,weight) which one to choose,but they all will provide you years of quality shaves.

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 04-06-2012, 07:30 PM
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  • Andrew
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Fantastic comparison, Teiste. Thanks!

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 04-06-2012, 07:32 PM
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  • gijames
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Thank you for running a *post* that answers my questions about the differences of the *89* series razors...
hehe one question, the scale reads 76, but the posted weight 79 Tongue

fat finger, or did the initial picture taker get impatient and not let the scale settle! hehe

(04-06-2012, 05:11 PM)Teiste Wrote:
[Image: P1220615.jpg]

These are some of the most famous safety razors made (I believe) for the same company for Edwin Jagger and Muhle.

The razors have different finish and handle styles,however they are all elegant and share the same closed comb head.

Lets check their weight first :

-Edwin Jagger DE8911 "Barley" has a weight of 79 grams :

[Image: P1220611.jpg]

-Edwin Jagger DE89 has a weight of 73 grams :

[Image: P1220612.jpg]

-Edwin Jagger DE89L has a weight of 75 grams :

[Image: P1220614.jpg]

-Muhle R 89 has a weight of 64 grams,being almost 10 grams lighter than the DE89 and 15 than the DE8911 :

[Image: P1220613.jpg]

Each razor has a different handle pattern/style :

-The Edwin Jagger DE89 has a smooth and flat handle,and some people are afraid that the razor handle could slip their fingers while theyre shaving with it.Well,I have never experience that,even when my hands and fingers are wet with this one or the DE87 (Ivory imitation handle) and the DE86 (black handle )

[Image: edwinjaggerde8913322zoo.jpg]

The DE89 is a well made razor,not as heavier than the DE8911 or the DE89L,but with an good balance.

-The Edwin Jagger DE89L has a "flutted" knurling handle (correct me if I'm wrong, since I'm using google translate for the word Im looking for to describe the handle of this razor) and it seems that it would give you a better grip than the DE89,but to me,they are both almost the same.Yes,its nice to see that pattern on the handle but I dont think it makes that much difference when you hold it.But some people like it better this way.

[Image: P1160287.jpg]

Its weight its almost perfect for me,but I think I like the DE8911 a little bit better, since its 4 grams heavier.The balance is also good,having most of its the weight on the close comb head.

-The Muhle R 89 has a deep knurling handle,which its a beauty to see.Its the lightest one of the all 4 and also the most expensive one,65 dollars.It shines a lot and has,for me,the most elegant design too.

[Image: P1220045.jpg]

Of course it feels "lighter" than the other ones,but its balance is still there,having almost a lot of its weight on the head.

-The Edwin Jagger DE8911 is the heaviest one of the 4 and also has a different knurling,called "Barley",which is not as "deep" as the one on the Muhle,but its also more "refined".The end of its handle has a small "ball" which reminds me of the Old Type Gillettes :

[Image: P1220604.jpg]

This razor has also a good grip,good balance and perfect weight for me.Also is the one that most shavers like among the Edwin Jagger/Muhle classic style safety razors.

[Image: P1220606.jpg]

All these razors provides excellent shaves and have elegant designs.Its a question of personal preference (style,type of knurling,weight) which one to choose,but they all will provide you years of quality shaves.

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 04-06-2012, 07:58 PM
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Great pictures Teiste!

I have a DE89 with the smooth handle and also have a DE8911 with the smooth handle as well. But I have to say that DE8911 Barley is a very nice looking razor. Perhaps there may be another de89 razor in my future, Hmmm...

Actually I've had my eye on this one for a while now, and having read your recent post regarding the imitation ivory version, I think this may be my next EJ razor.

[Image: R356SR_400.jpg]

Either that one or the Plaza in imitation ivory.

[Image: plaza.jpg]

I really like the looks of the Plaza.
I can't seem to make up my mind. I may have to buy both. Biggrin

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 04-06-2012, 08:36 PM
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  • Teiste
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gijames :yes,my friend,my mistake...It weight 76 grams not 79 grams.I truly believed ,for some odd reason that it was 79 grams,so I was wrong about it.

Manticore : get both,my friend.Im sure that eventually Ill get the Plaza too,but with black handle.

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 04-07-2012, 06:06 AM
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It has to be a touch feel/handle thing because the heads all shave the same. Me personally, I prefer my DE87.

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 04-07-2012, 08:41 AM
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(04-07-2012, 06:06 AM)Johnny Wrote: It has to be a touch feel/handle thing because the heads all shave the same. Me personally, I prefer my DE87.

wow, ok so that takes it a step further...

Are ALL DE8 series (86,87,89,8911... so forth) the exact same head?

Huh

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 04-07-2012, 09:15 AM
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  • Teiste
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(04-07-2012, 08:41 AM)gijames Wrote:
(04-07-2012, 06:06 AM)Johnny Wrote: It has to be a touch feel/handle thing because the heads all shave the same. Me personally, I prefer my DE87.

wow, ok so that takes it a step further...

Are ALL DE8 series (86,87,89,8911... so forth) the exact same head?

Huh

Yes,they all share the same close comb head.

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 04-07-2012, 10:49 AM
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(04-07-2012, 09:15 AM)Teiste Wrote:
(04-07-2012, 08:41 AM)gijames Wrote:
(04-07-2012, 06:06 AM)Johnny Wrote: It has to be a touch feel/handle thing because the heads all shave the same. Me personally, I prefer my DE87.

wow, ok so that takes it a step further...

Are ALL DE8 series (86,87,89,8911... so forth) the exact same head?

Huh

Yes,they all share the same close comb head.
Biggrin ahhhhh Idea
this all helps me see more clearly, Thank you all again for the responses Smile

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 04-08-2012, 06:09 AM
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Biggrin
DE89LBL will be shipping to me this week!

Any suggestions (Shaving angle, blade) on how I can adjust from the HD34c to using the DE89LBL?

Coarse hair, not too dense, except in the goatee area including my mustache

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 04-08-2012, 11:02 AM
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(04-08-2012, 06:09 AM)gijames Wrote: Biggrin
DE89LBL will be shipping to me this week!

Any suggestions (Shaving angle, blade) on how I can adjust from the HD34c to using the DE89LBL?

Coarse hair, not too dense, except in the goatee area including my mustache

Well,not really.Both razors almost have the same shaving angle,so its gonna be easy to get used to the Edwin Jagger if you have been using the Merkur for a long time.

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 04-08-2012, 11:36 AM
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I use a BRW handle on the R-89 head for added weight and stability.

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 04-08-2012, 12:00 PM
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(04-08-2012, 11:36 AM)CyanideMetal Wrote: I use a BRW handle on the R-89 head for added weight and stability.

I'm new to alot of the terminology, what is a BRW handle?

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 05-23-2013, 04:23 AM
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Thanks for this great comparison. I wasn't sure which one I should get. The Muhle R 89 and the EJ DE89 are priced similarly, so that wasn't taken into account. I ordered the Muhle today and I'm quite excited.

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