05-02-2013, 09:38 AM
  • Samjax
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I've been on the road a good deal as of late and haven't had time to do much in way of reviews and comparisons. The Muhle R41 in the 2011 and 2013 versions did intrigue me however, so here we go.

Here are the dimensions and weights per my digital scale and digital calipers.

Cap Weight 2011: 11 grams
Cap Weight 2013: 13 grams

Cap Height 2011: 41.18 mm
Cap Height 2013: 42.04 mm

Cap Width 2011: 18.54 mm
Cap Width 2013: 19.89 mm

Baseplate Weight 2011: 15 grams
Baseplate Weight 2013: 16 grams

Baseplate Height 2011: 41.26 mm
Baseplate Height 2013: 42.23 mm

Baseplate Width 2011: 24.99 mm
Baseplate Width 2013: 25.20 mm

These are certainly 2 different razors as far as dimensions go. The 2013 has more weight, more height and more width. Blade exposure is far less in the 2013 model. Blade gap is very close to the same.

If you look at the pictures closely, you will see the cap difference right away. On close inspection of the baseplate, you will see some noticeable differences as well; particular the thickness on the ends of the baseplate itself. Blade exposure between the two is very obvious.

Shaving Results:

Enough has been written about the 2011 R41 over the past couple of years, so I won't get into that here. Suffice to say, it's a very aggressive, very close shaving razor that while many love, many others simply can't get along with it.

Tools for today's shave:

2013 R41 with Gillette Silver Blue Blade and iKon OSS handle (my handle of choice)
La Toja
Semogue 2012 SE Boar/Badger
Witch Hazel afterwards


Handling: Very good - angles easy to find - will be far easier to use for most than the 2011.

Feedback: The 2013 has a considerable amount of feedback - should please everyone in that regard.

Smoothness: Far smoother than the 2011. No harshness to speak of. Upon speeding up on my 2nd and 3rd passes, I was looking to get "bit" along the way. Surprisingly, I didn't and there were no weepers at the end of my 3rd pass.

Closeness: The 2011 will probably shave you closer - but not by enough to matter.

Blade Exposure: Not even close - the 2011 has far more blade exposure.

Blade Gap: Oddly enough, the 2011 & 2013 are very close in this regard.

Build Quality: Both are built to Muhle standards which is generally pretty good. No, it's not a polished stainless, but it's far cheaper, will last a long time and will out-shave most, if not all, of the current SS offerings. The 2013 does cover the exposed blade ends more so than the 2011.

Verdict: This is a very impressive razor. I own a mint condition Barbasol Floating Head (among many other razors), and the 2013 R41 is very, very much like shaving with the Barbasol - and the 2013 may actually shave a tad bit closer. I had read somewhere else where that was reported, but found it rather hard to believe until I had experienced it firsthand.

In the final analysis, I would go so far as to say that the 2013 R41 and a R89 (or EJ 89), would take care of the vast majority of shaving needs for a good many people (particularly those wanting to keep their costs somewhat reasonable).

As a daily shaver on my face - the 2013 Muhle R41 will be reached for far more often than my 2011 R41.

In every picture below, the 2011 R41 is always on the left and the 2013 R41 is on the right; the exception being a cap comparison where the 2011 is on top.


Differences in the cap are easy to see. Upon closer inspection, the plate has changed as well.




If you look closely, it appears that the 2013 plate is actually a bit "taller" in this picture.


It seems that the 2013's plate has been beefed up a bit on both ends.





The much more aggressive blade exposure of the 2011 is easy to see



Notice the much more exposed blade ends in the 2011 vs the 2013 (endcap exposure)




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 05-02-2013, 09:43 AM
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Great post there.

How would you compare it to other razors on the market? Tradere OC? Or other razors that were in your stainless steel shoot out?

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 05-02-2013, 09:47 AM
  • Harvey
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Fantastic pictures and measurments....no doubt about anything now...written like a scientific discovery...10 stars!!!!:star::star::star::star::star::star::star::star::star::star:

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 05-02-2013, 09:55 AM
  • Samjax
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"How would you compare it to other razors on the market? Tradere OC? Or other razors that were in your stainless steel shoot out?"

I don't know of any current stainless razors that will provide you the level of closeness and smoothness that the 2013 R41 does. If Muhle were to offer the 2013 R41 in SS, it would be pretty much "game over" for a lot of folks.

The Weber is smoother - but isn't particularly aggressive
The ATT H plate shaves just as close - but isn't very smooth

The 2013 R41 combines the best of both - and oddly enough - it works.

I haven't purchased the new Feather AS-DE2 as of yet...but I have owned the following SS razors and these are the source of my personal comparison.

Feather AS-D1
Tradere OC 1st and 2nd Gen
Tradere SB
ATT M, R and H (still own the M & R)
iKon OSS
iKon S3S
iKon Polished OC (one of the earlier ones)
iKon 2012 SB and OC (still own both)
Weber DLC (probably shouldn't have sold that one...)

The new R41 isn't going to cause me to sell all of my other razors - but it certainly cranks things up a notch for smooth/aggressive shaving.

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 05-02-2013, 09:57 AM
  • Fab
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WOW! The pictures are awesome, you can clearly see the differences very easily. Thank you very much for sharing. This is very interesting.

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 05-02-2013, 10:05 AM
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Great review, Tom!
Amazing pics! Enjoy the razor.

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 05-02-2013, 10:09 AM
  • Agravic
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Wow ... excellent summary of the differences between these two razors!
I'm still puzzled as to Muhle's decision not to rename razors when they are altered significantly ... ie instead of R41 2010 vs 2011 vs 2013 ... it can get very confusing.

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 05-02-2013, 12:34 PM
  • mikeperry
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Hi Tom

That there Sir! is a first-class review Clap

Take care, Mike

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 05-02-2013, 12:41 PM
  • Codfish
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Very thorough and well done. Thank you!

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 05-02-2013, 12:49 PM
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Thank you very much Tom and welcome back. The pictures are outstanding. I am afraid I am addicted to the 2011' models. To me the 2013' shaves exactly like the iKon Deluxe standard bar which is a good thing because they are both great shavers. Price point the Muhle wins out.

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 05-02-2013, 01:18 PM
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Hi Tom,

Amazing review & comparison. It's so helpful! Smile Lovely pics as well. Thumbsup

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 05-02-2013, 02:16 PM
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Excellent work with that review! Thanks!

It appears I may just buy one to check it out for myself.

(05-02-2013, 10:09 AM)Agravic Wrote: Wow ... excellent summary of the differences between these two razors!
I'm still puzzled as to Muhle's decision not to rename razors when they are altered significantly ... ie instead of R41 2010 vs 2011 vs 2013 ... it can get very confusing.

I agree. The least they could have done was made an R41v2, R41v3 or some such. OK, they also could have come clean on the redesign too, but they didn't. Maybe no one was supposed to notice.

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 05-02-2013, 02:30 PM
  • slr31
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Tom, What an impressive and thorough comparison report. I like how you compare a razor to the others you have used. That is very helpful to me.
I was on the fence about the latest R41, but as soon as I read your post I knew I had to order one and I did. Biggrin

Thank You Sir!

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 05-02-2013, 02:40 PM
  • YMMV
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Excellent work, thank you very much for your effort Smile

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 05-02-2013, 05:20 PM
  • Shaun
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GREAT review and pictures; first reference I have seen to the changes to the base plate as well. Going by the pictures, there is clearly a change in beefiness and height, and that would affect the angle of the blade, I assume. In any case the 2013 is certainly a great piece of shaving technology. The point re the availability of this tool in SS would certainly be game over; even I might consider spending a little more than usual on an all-stainless 2013 R41! Biggrin

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 05-02-2013, 05:33 PM
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Excellent write up !

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 05-03-2013, 03:13 AM
  • GWHunter
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Excellent comparison, well done!

Like Slantman I have a great admiration for the '11 model. I just love aggressive razors. I've been wondering should I pick up a '13 to see what all of the fuss is about. With such excellent pictures I now realize it's not necessary. Although with all things shaving related, my AD may force me to try one eventually but now I'm in no hurry to do so.

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 05-03-2013, 06:10 AM
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Thanks for taking the time to create such a detailed, concise and informative report!

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 05-03-2013, 06:34 AM
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Nice comparison, very good work!

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 05-03-2013, 11:39 AM
  • Michel
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Thank you very much, Tom!

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