05-11-2013, 05:27 AM
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I've recently been shaving with a newly acquired 1947 Aristocrat and Im curious as to how it compares with the British ones, particularly the 21 and the 16. I read the great article by Tony SC and now Im intrigued.

Any advice is appreciated, thanks

joe

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 05-11-2013, 06:28 AM
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  • TexBilly
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Joe, I'm a big fan of the #21 and #16 Brit Aristos and consider the #21 the finest TTO razor Gillette (and possibly any manufacturer) ever made. Both Brits are smoother and closer shavers than the '47 US Aristo in this man's opinion. You're focusing on some fine razors, so have fun!

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 05-11-2013, 08:25 AM
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Thanks for the advice and the encouragement! Sounds like I'm going to have to do it!

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 05-11-2013, 09:43 AM
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I used to own a un-notched 46-47 Aristocrat and a British #58 and felt they shaved fairly similar...a bit more in favor of the #58 due to it's smoothness...build quality was slightly in favor of the #58.

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 05-11-2013, 12:57 PM
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so many aristocrats so little time! consensus seems to be the British versions out perform the US version. Im excited about trying to land some since I really like both my US made 47 and 1934 OC Aristocrat.

Thanks Guys

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 05-11-2013, 02:44 PM
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(05-11-2013, 05:27 AM)stellafella Wrote: I've recently been shaving with a newly acquired 1947 Aristocrat and Im curious as to how it compares with the British ones, particularly the 21 and the 16.

Any advice is appreciated, thanks

joe

Hi there,

So first let me say the US made Aristocrat/Diplomat/President are all gonna shave somewhat the same. Use one and use em all, except for different plating and knurling.

The four Aristo UK versions I've sampled (#15,16, 21, Popular) have all been a bit more luxurious to use. Nicer finish on some, great handle knurling on others, very smooth TTO, more weight, and overall just feel better in the hand. Plus they all have their own personalities and charms.

So that's how they seem to me. You will want to try them Limey razors pretty soon.

Martin

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 05-11-2013, 07:12 PM
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I've been curious about the 15 since I bought the 1934. I had really not thought about the 16 or 21 until I bought and really liked the 47. The RAD list keeps growing! Thanks everyone

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 05-12-2013, 01:41 AM
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  • Dino
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I use a 47 US 'Crat ' most days its my go to razor, ive had both the 16 and 21 British 'crats' but they where NOT as smooth (For me that is) but very well made the TTO was so smooth on those british razors.
I had both of them for about 3 months each trying every combination I had but just did not seem to be as good as what ever else I had
I have a bout 18 ish razors (and thats way too many for me.) and I want to keep it at that or less so when I get a new to me razor I'm always looking to take one out of the collection.
I so want to like the British that I have a 58 in case on the way as we speak,

I know the 47 is a milder razor, but I also use a fatboy set to 7 and even an R-41 and tuckaway with great results so its not like I favour mild razors only.

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 05-12-2013, 07:42 AM
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Dino, truly YMMV. I have a British popular 46 and an Aristocrat Junior, neither of which I particularly cared for and I thought I could just get over the need for any more from the family of Aristocrats but the US '47 is such a nice shave it got me going again.

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 05-12-2013, 07:52 AM
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I have tried a few of the British Aristocrats (15, 16, 21)and IMO the British Aristocrats are nice shavers with a bit more aggressiveness than the US counterparts but for me the 1947 US Aristocrat is the best in terms of aggressiveness and still being smooth. It is the only one of them that has kept its spot in my rotation. The Brits are nicely made, tighter tolerances, smoother TTO mechs and fancier knurling but my gold replated US Aristocrat will hold its own in the looks department. Good luck to the OP trying out all the razors and looks like you are on track for a nice case of RAD!

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 05-12-2013, 07:57 AM
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I know I will have to try for myself!

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 05-12-2013, 12:35 PM
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(05-12-2013, 07:52 AM)jgriest03 Wrote: I have tried a few of the British Aristocrats (15, 16, 21)and IMO the British Aristocrats are nice shavers with a bit more aggressiveness than the US counterparts but for me the 1947 US Aristocrat is the best in terms of aggressiveness and still being smooth. It is the only one of them that has kept its spot in my rotation.

Yep, same exact thoughts here. Sold the #16 and 21, and the 15 was tried and returned to the member who let me test drive it. The Popular I rarely use, but it's a purty thang.

The US made Aristocrat'/Diplomat are both in my rotation.

Martin

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 05-12-2013, 11:53 PM
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(05-11-2013, 05:27 AM)stellafella Wrote: I've recently been shaving with a newly acquired 1947 Aristocrat and Im curious as to how it compares with the British ones, particularly the 21 and the 16. I read the great article by Tony SC and now Im intrigued.

Any advice is appreciated, thanks

joe
In all fairness, the Gillette English factories just made better razors.

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 06-04-2013, 04:36 PM
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I wouldn't trade my #15 for anything. Still need to get a #21 when the prices cool back down.

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 06-04-2013, 06:20 PM
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I keep wanting to try a #16, but I agree with the above sentiment, prices are getting too nuts currently.

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