05-21-2013, 10:08 AM
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  • Niro884
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I'm looking at the Joris Razor. The only open comb I have or have ever tried is the iKon Open Comb 2013 Model. Can any Joris users please advise how aggressive the Joris is? I have no problems with the iKon open comb. What would you compare it to? Very aggressive or moderately aggressive?

Thanks

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 05-21-2013, 10:32 AM
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My first thought was "very aggressive." In a linear scale, its not as aggressive as the Muhle R41/toothcomb, but its not too far. The nice thing about the Joris is that, handled carefully and with the correct angle, it gives as close to a "straight razor" shave as a safety razor can give, at least in my opinion. The shave also "lasts" longer, i.e. you have less stubble.

I also don't want to sell the Joris short; if properly used, it can be an excellent everyday shaver. And there are no other DEs as elegant as Joris models.

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 05-21-2013, 02:04 PM
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The Ikon is not typical of open comb razors, which tend to be on the more aggressive side. The Ikon is quite mild. If you are confident in your technique, give the Joris/Plisson a try. If you don't want to invest so much money in a razor you're not sure you'll like, order a Fatip - the Fatip head and the Joris head are essentially identical.

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 05-21-2013, 02:29 PM
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  • Samjax
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Phil is blowing them out at Bullgoose - so now is a great time to pick one up. I highly doubt that you'll lose much (if any) money on it in case you decide to sell it later.

I would term it "moderately aggressive". It will shave you very much like the iKon SB actually. The iKon OC is considerably more mild.

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 05-21-2013, 05:20 PM
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  • ben74
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The Joris demands better technique than the iKon. Whereas you can whip around the face easily and confidently with the iKon, the Joris with it's greater blade exposure can be more aggressive when not used correctly.

The Joris is nothing to be afraid of (unlike the 2011 Muhle R41) with proper technique it delivers a wonderfully smooth and long lasting shave. If your angle is off however, it can bite.

At Phil's current prices, there has never (and will never) be a better time to try!

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 05-21-2013, 08:06 PM
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(05-21-2013, 02:04 PM)vocalistbob Wrote: The Ikon is not typical of open comb razors, which tend to be on the more aggressive side. The Ikon is quite mild. If you are confident in your technique, give the Joris/Plisson a try. If you don't want to invest so much money in a razor you're not sure you'll like, order a Fatip - the Fatip head and the Joris head are essentially identical.

Not quite, the baseplate is thinner on the Joris and I believe there is more blade exposure as well.

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 05-21-2013, 10:25 PM
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The razor is very effective and on the aggressive side, but it will not irritate you like other aggressive razors. The Joris is tamed but very wild at shaving tough hairs. This is the only aggressive razor that u can actually do brushing with, brushing is usually done with a mild razor to avoid skin irritation. I own one and will not ever part with it. Biggrin

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 05-21-2013, 11:05 PM
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I love my 6 Joris DE Razors and will order a 7.th in lined chrome to please Ben's vision of the 7 day Week set of Joris DE razors Biggrin

Just kidding, but I soon will own 7 Joris razors and I rank them highly among my favorite razors of all time.
Circa on par with the R41 2012 razor, but less aggressive than the R41 2011 razor.

I find the Ikon OC far less aggressive, actually quite mild, while the Ikon SB is actually the more aggressive of my 3 Ikon heads, but none quite up the Joris alley if you know what I mean Smile

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 05-21-2013, 11:27 PM
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(05-21-2013, 11:05 PM)CHSeifert Wrote: I love my 6 Joris DE Razors and will order a 7.th in lined chrome to please Ben's vision of the 7 day Week set of Joris DE razors Biggrin

Just kidding, but I soon will own 7 Joris razors and I rank them highly among my favorite razors of all time.
Circa on par with the R41 2012 razor, but less aggressive than the R41 2011 razor.

I find the Ikon OC far less aggressive, actually quite mild, while the Ikon SB is actually the more aggressive of my 3 Ikon heads, but none quite up the Joris alley if you know what I mean Smile
I dont think its less aggressive than r41/2011 for me its less irritating.

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 05-22-2013, 05:34 AM
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  • Niro884
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Thanks guys. Your opinions help. You guys are great. I'm going Joris Wink

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 05-22-2013, 11:54 AM
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(05-22-2013, 05:34 AM)Niro884 Wrote: Thanks guys. Your opinions help. You guys are great. I'm going Joris Wink

See Phil at Bullgoose...108 bucks is a steal http://www.bullgooseshaving.net/

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 05-22-2013, 12:08 PM
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  • slantman
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(05-22-2013, 11:54 AM)alex2363 Wrote:
(05-22-2013, 05:34 AM)Niro884 Wrote: Thanks guys. Your opinions help. You guys are great. I'm going Joris Wink

See Phil at Bullgoose...108 bucks is a steal http://www.bullgooseshaving.net/

But not many left at the theft price.

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 05-22-2013, 10:03 PM
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(05-22-2013, 12:08 PM)slantman Wrote:
(05-22-2013, 11:54 AM)alex2363 Wrote:
(05-22-2013, 05:34 AM)Niro884 Wrote: Thanks guys. Your opinions help. You guys are great. I'm going Joris Wink

See Phil at Bullgoose...108 bucks is a steal http://www.bullgooseshaving.net/

But not many left at the theft price.
He has the black lacquer at $108...that is a great deal

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 05-23-2013, 02:57 PM
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  • matloffm
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I am curious. Has anyone used a Cobra and a Joris? I shave with the Cobra and would like to know how the Joris compares.

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 05-23-2013, 05:23 PM
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  • Samjax
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The Joris is good, but not that good. The Cobra, or should I say the Feather Artist Club blades, are very hard to beat.

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 05-24-2013, 02:19 PM
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(05-23-2013, 05:23 PM)Samjax Wrote: The Joris is good, but not that good. The Cobra, or should I say the Feather Artist Club blades, are very hard to beat.

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Well, you comparing the Blade or actual razors? The Cobra is a single edge razor and the Joris is double. How would u compare the Joris shave result from both?

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 05-24-2013, 02:59 PM
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  • Harvey
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Hard to compare because the Cobra uses a thicker blade and a wider blade and also is a SB but from my experience the Cobra is better. Possibly a different test between one,s favorite SE and Blade against the Cobra and then the winner vs the Joris for all around shave quality.The Joris may win on looks,handle choice and blade variety. The Cobra has a so so grip but otherwise is a great razor.But as a collector I say buy them all!!!!!

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 05-24-2013, 05:36 PM
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  • Samjax
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I had assumed that he was talking about the "final" shave results - in that regard, the Feather Artist Club Pro will shave you closer and smoother than pretty much anything else out there.

In regards to the razor itself, the Joris is probably going to have the best, and most likely, the most consistent quality in regards to physical workmanship (I've had zero issues with my early model Cobra, but I understand that the newer versions are having some QC issues at times).

Thankfully, I don't have to choose just one...or ten for that matter. It's all part of the fun.

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 05-29-2013, 10:19 AM
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  • matloffm
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(05-24-2013, 05:36 PM)Samjax Wrote: I had assumed that he was talking about the "final" shave results - in that regard, the Feather Artist Club Pro will shave you closer and smoother than pretty much anything else out there.

That is what I was asking. Thanks.

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 06-05-2013, 04:09 PM
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  • srgjazz
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My Fatip has more blade exposure than my Joris

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