05-26-2013, 08:10 AM
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  • Barrylu
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People have complained that the handle of The Cobra is uncomfortable and a bit difficult to control.A solution to the problem is to simply choke-up on the handle. I hold the razor with my thumb and forefinger just below the vertical bar that holds the blade. My other three fingers were wrapped around the handle. The three fingers were finally comfortable in the handle idents.The grasp is something like the grasp used for a straight but in the vertical position. It makes sense when one realizes that the Cobra is a hybred straight and safety razor. At any rate a perfect three pass shave with perfect control.
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 05-26-2013, 08:28 AM
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  • slantman
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Its too bad the Cobra doesn't have a round diamond pattern handle.It would solve the main complaint of this razor. Your solution is a good one. Thank you.

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 05-26-2013, 09:22 AM
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I don't understand the issue some people have with this handle. The shape is quite reminiscent to the Schick injector triangular handles. I don't hear people complain of those, rather they usually receive praise. I don't find the Cobra handle to feel much different than a Schick I1 or I2 except for the indentions & weight.

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 05-26-2013, 09:28 AM
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  • Agravic
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I agree, Brian. Although the grip and finger positioning is different from a typical DE round handle, it's rather intuitive and natural for me. I have large hands (size 8) and experience no difficulties with maneuvering the Cobra. I agree with the OP comment on the wonderfully smooth 1-3 pass results achieved with this beauty! Biggrin

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 05-26-2013, 09:34 AM
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I haven't had any trouble with the grip. I also choke up.

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 05-26-2013, 11:35 AM
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i have never tried that grip. That is very interesting.

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 05-26-2013, 11:41 AM
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(05-26-2013, 09:22 AM)SharpSpine Wrote: I don't understand the issue some people have with this handle. The shape is quite reminiscent to the Schick injector triangular handles. I don't hear people complain of those, rather they usually receive praise. I don't find the Cobra handle to feel much different than a Schick I1 or I2 except for the indentions & weight.

Schick injectors didn't cost $169 when they were brand new.... For the money, it and the blade changing mechanism could be better.

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 05-26-2013, 11:47 AM
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(05-26-2013, 11:41 AM)Sodapopjones Wrote:
(05-26-2013, 09:22 AM)SharpSpine Wrote: I don't understand the issue some people have with this handle. The shape is quite reminiscent to the Schick injector triangular handles. I don't hear people complain of those, rather they usually receive praise. I don't find the Cobra handle to feel much different than a Schick I1 or I2 except for the indentions & weight.

Schick injectors didn't cost $169 when they were brand new.... For the money, it and the blade changing mechanism could be better.

I didn't think we were getting into a cost analysis here. Haven't we learned yet in this hobby that cost means nothing. Some will find it worth it while others won't. The end.

I was only comparing the shape and noting how people praise the Schick handle while complaining about the Cobra. In my mind price isn't relevant in this discussion.

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 05-26-2013, 12:51 PM
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  • slantman
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Nobody is getting bent here we are just discussing a razor and a grip nothing more. Schick injectors are fabulous and shave great but compared to the Cobra they are feather weight so grip was not an issue. Shave wise the Cobra shaves as good as any razor present or past (IMHO).

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 05-26-2013, 05:27 PM
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The Cobra felt strange to grip only at the very first; after that it was a non-issue for me and I would hold it like any other DE/SE razor. I would again agree that it is one of the top razors (and blade, in the Feather Pro) that I've tried.

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 05-26-2013, 11:22 PM
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(05-26-2013, 11:47 AM)SharpSpine Wrote:
(05-26-2013, 11:41 AM)Sodapopjones Wrote:
(05-26-2013, 09:22 AM)SharpSpine Wrote: I don't understand the issue some people have with this handle. The shape is quite reminiscent to the Schick injector triangular handles. I don't hear people complain of those, rather they usually receive praise. I don't find the Cobra handle to feel much different than a Schick I1 or I2 except for the indentions & weight.

Schick injectors didn't cost $169 when they were brand new.... For the money, it and the blade changing mechanism could be better.

I didn't think we were getting into a cost analysis here. Haven't we learned yet in this hobby that cost means nothing. Some will find it worth it while others won't. The end.

I was only comparing the shape and noting how people praise the Schick handle while complaining about the Cobra. In my mind price isn't relevant in this discussion.

(05-26-2013, 12:51 PM)slantman Wrote: Nobody is getting bent here we are just discussing a razor and a grip nothing more. Schick injectors are fabulous and shave great but compared to the Cobra they are feather weight so grip was not an issue. Shave wise the Cobra shaves as good as any razor present or past (IMHO).

Considering the pm's you used to ask me on TSD Brian, I find it amusing you no longer seem to care about cost/quality/quantity ratio considering I had to hard sell you on Vulfix/Simpsons; which are quality.

I'm sticking to my statement, for $169 it could have been designed better.

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 05-27-2013, 04:39 AM
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Aaron, I still consider cost/benefit ratios. I was simply stating that in this conversation about handle shape & design I don't see cost being important.

Design is always a personal matter and as consumers we really have no idea all of the factors that go into the decision making process for what makes the cut & what doesn't. These wider blades present a more difficult problem for safety razor design than we understand, especially compared to a DE. Plus, how long have these blades been around compared to DEs? The Cobra & perhaps future razors using these blades are still in their design infancy.

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 05-27-2013, 05:19 PM
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  • matloffm
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I never had a problem with the grip on the Cobra. I let the end of the handle rest in the palm of my hand wrap my fingers loosely around it. The fingers are just used to guide it. The weight of the razor is more than enough to cut the beard. A variation of this grip is to rest the end of the handle on your little finger and loosely grip the rest of the handle. I cannot imagine gripping the handle as in a DE or SE because this would transfer controlling the extremely light touch required to my arm. This would make nicks far more common and increase the possibility of razor burn.

As has been said, the Cobra is a straight on a T handle and, just as in a straight, the blade must glide on the skin. A firm grip on a Cobra makes it much harder to do this IMO.

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 05-28-2013, 06:27 PM
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  • Samjax
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The Cobra handle for me is easy to use. It feels good and I've never had an issue shaving with it.

Now getting me to use a straight razor "properly" is near impossible. I collected a dozen or so and figured for sure that I would get the hang of it. It never happened.

I then bought a couple of kamisoris...since they "must" be easier. I was wrong again. Angry

Compared to a straight or kamisori, the Cobra is pure magic. Smile

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 05-29-2013, 11:48 AM
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On the first shave I had to adjust to the Cobra handle as it is a tad different and I do think that the word "adjust" is too big for this case. From the second shave on it became a non-issue for me.

The only razor that felt awkward for me was the short, stubby, slippery smooth, all-metal and very heavy Sabi-T3. I think I am the only one to complain about that razor though...

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 05-29-2013, 12:10 PM
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  • slantman
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(05-29-2013, 11:48 AM)Galhatz Wrote: On the first shave I had to adjust to the Cobra handle as it is a tad different and I do think that the word "adjust" is too big for this case. From the second shave on it became a non-issue for me.

The only razor that felt awkward for me was the short, stubby, slippery smooth, all-metal and very heavy Sabi-T3. I think I am the only one to complain about that razor though...
You are correct the Sabi T3 is a very heavy and short handle razor to use.

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 05-30-2013, 08:31 PM
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  • Agravic
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(05-26-2013, 09:28 AM)Agravic Wrote: I agree, Brian. Although the grip and finger positioning is different from a typical DE round handle, it's rather intuitive and natural for me. I have large hands (size 8) and experience no difficulties with maneuvering the Cobra. I agree with the OP comment on the wonderfully smooth 1-3 pass results achieved with this beauty! Biggrin

I had a little free time this evening .. Biggrin .. so I took a few shots of my 'Cobra Grips' that have evolved with almost daily use of this razor for the last 6 months. As you can see, the WTG and XTG left are essentially the same grip with the latter being a 90 degree turn of the hand ... this grip works for me because the index finger serves as a light support and fine tuner while the thumb, 3rd, and 4th fingers provide support. The XTG right and ATG grips are similar as well with a 90 degree turn of the hand once again ... here the thumb and index fingers provide support while the 3rd finger allows for fine tuning.

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XTG left

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XTG right


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ATG

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 05-30-2013, 09:50 PM
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Well done, Ravi! Excellent detail!Biggrin

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