05-27-2013, 08:40 AM
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Well, I've just read that some badger culling is about to take place in Britain... up to 5,000 badgers next summer, but there are plans up to 100,000...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/wildlif...-cull.html

I wonder if it will somehow affect UK brushes, for good, obviously...Cool

Mark, are you around??Biggrin

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 05-27-2013, 12:58 PM
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They're shooting them so the pelts are going to be pretty damaged.

Not only that, but it's still illegal under British law to sell the pelts or anything deriving from said pelts.

I think the British badger lovers would be up in arms if we used them for shaving brushes. I think it's wise for Simpsons et al to stay far away from this issue.

Finally, someone said that UK badger is actually not that soft. My research does not suggest where badger hair was actually sourced for brushes other than eastern Europe and today China.

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 05-27-2013, 01:16 PM
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Law prevents us from using European Badger irrespective of state sponsored culling.

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 05-27-2013, 07:08 PM
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(05-27-2013, 01:16 PM)Simpson1919 Wrote: Law prevents us from using European Badger irrespective of state sponsored culling.

I suspected as much...

So definitely no Gloucestershire or Somerset badger! Tongue

Just as well Manchurian is my favourite! Biggrin

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 06-01-2013, 04:58 AM
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Historically British badger hair has always been too coarse for using in brushes. From the start of the business to the day we said goodbye we sourced hair from the Balkans predominantly.

Gary

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 06-03-2013, 09:17 AM
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Interesting. And thanks for your responses. Yup, I think it's illegal in Europe.

BTW (with some exceptions) I always thought the commonly used species were the same, both the European one and the Chinese one, i.e Meles Meles (

So, in the end, no production increase?ConfusedFacepalmSmile

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 06-06-2013, 11:26 AM
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(06-03-2013, 09:17 AM)Useless shaver Wrote: Interesting. And thanks for your responses. Yup, I think it's illegal in Europe.

BTW (with some exceptions) I always thought the commonly used species were the same, both the European one and the Chinese one, i.e Meles Meles (

So, in the end, no production increase?ConfusedFacepalmSmile

While illegal to sell British badgers, M. Meles is not even on the endangered or threatened species list. In fact, the hog badger (2 band badger) is more threatened. Although on most lists, it's listed as doing fine. A few list it as threatened. Probably due to Chinese urban expansion into forest habitats.

M. Meles actually evolved in China and spread westward and east to Japan. A. Collaris has stayed in China.

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 06-10-2013, 02:18 AM
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(06-01-2013, 04:58 AM)Gary Young Wrote: Historically British badger hair has always been too coarse for using in brushes. From the start of the business to the day we said goodbye we sourced hair from the Balkans predominantly.

Gary

Hence the colourful British phrase: "As rough as a badger's arse".

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 06-10-2013, 09:32 AM
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(06-06-2013, 11:26 AM)asharperrazor Wrote:
(06-03-2013, 09:17 AM)Useless shaver Wrote: Interesting. And thanks for your responses. Yup, I think it's illegal in Europe.

BTW (with some exceptions) I always thought the commonly used species were the same, both the European one and the Chinese one, i.e Meles Meles (

So, in the end, no production increase?ConfusedFacepalmSmile

While illegal to sell British badgers, M. Meles is not even on the endangered or threatened species list. In fact, the hog badger (2 band badger) is more threatened. Although on most lists, it's listed as doing fine. A few list it as threatened. Probably due to Chinese urban expansion into forest habitats.

M. Meles actually evolved in China and spread westward and east to Japan. A. Collaris has stayed in China.

Thank you!

(06-10-2013, 02:18 AM)Shaun Wrote:
(06-01-2013, 04:58 AM)Gary Young Wrote: Historically British badger hair has always been too coarse for using in brushes. From the start of the business to the day we said goodbye we sourced hair from the Balkans predominantly.

Gary

Hence the colourful British phrase: "As rough as a badger's arse".


Biggrin

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 06-12-2013, 01:15 PM
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Just one more reason to switch to Boar...No shortage of Bacon!!!

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 06-12-2013, 01:29 PM
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Just curious since I'm not familiar with the practice of obtaining badger hair, but do you have to kill and skin the badger to get the hair or can you just shear it without harming them?

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 06-13-2013, 06:57 AM
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Horse hair is the only animal hair for shaving brushes that is collected without harming the animal.

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 06-13-2013, 08:46 AM
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(06-12-2013, 01:15 PM)Crag Wrote: Just one more reason to switch to Boar...No shortage of Bacon!!!

Mmmm... bacon....Heart

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