04-12-2012, 08:11 AM
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  • bullgoose
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I have noticed some chatter about potential group buys and thought I better make this announcement before things get carried away. Any potential group buy must first be approved by the moderator team and must be run according to our rules and conditions. The first step is to send me a PM. If it seems like it has potential, I will forward it to the moderator team for discussion.

One of the main issues is that Group Buys blur the line between being a regular member and being a vendor. All group buys are to be done at zero profit so we need to see the numbers. If there is a profit, these funds should be donated to The Shave Nook for operating expenses. If not, you need to meet all of the criteria for being a vendor.

While members generally enjoy group buys, there are very real downsides that need to be mitigated. In some cases, a group buy can actually serve to effectively kill a product and we want to make sure we avoid that.

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 04-12-2012, 08:17 AM
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  • Johnny
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I will make this short. I agree.

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 04-12-2012, 12:06 PM
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(04-12-2012, 08:11 AM)bullgoose Wrote: One of the main issues is that Group Buys blur the line between being a regular member and being a vendor. All group buys are to be done at zero profit so we need to see the numbers.

Wouldn't it be possible for vendors to conduct group buys within The Shave Nook's vendor guidelines? As a consumer, I don't care who is organizing a group buy as long as the product is delivered in approximately the stated lead time and at the asking price.

Regardless, it might be best to post explicitly stated group buy rules in a sticky or in the Forum rules section. That way there will be no confusion or controversy on the matter. Not meant as criticism, just IMHO.

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 04-12-2012, 12:25 PM
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(04-12-2012, 12:06 PM)Tbone Wrote: Regardless, it might be best to post explicitly stated group buy rules in a sticky or in the Forum rules section.

I think for now I will just say "No Group Buys" unless initiated and approved by the moderator team. There are a lot of potential pitfalls and this is the easiest way to avoid them.

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 07-19-2012, 12:09 PM
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  • bullgoose
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Time for a bump

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 07-19-2012, 12:24 PM
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  • xraygun
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Phil,

I think elaborating more on how a group buy could/has kill/killed a product might help some understand. I doubt it's obvious to all.

Cheers,
Ray

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 07-19-2012, 01:49 PM
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  • Teiste
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Oops,I totally forget about this forum rule.Thanks for the bump,Phil.

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 07-19-2012, 04:45 PM
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(07-19-2012, 12:24 PM)xraygun Wrote: Phil,

I think elaborating more on how a group buy could/has kill/killed a product might help some understand. I doubt it's obvious to all.

Cheers,
Ray

I agree. If a vendor chooses to supply a group buy, then shouldn't they be the ones concerned about their product longevity?

I understand and agree all group buys must be approved so no one takes advantage of the buy and makes money from it.

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 07-19-2012, 05:02 PM
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  • Johnny
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IMHO when a vendor has a group buy, it's a sale. No need to call it anything else.

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 07-19-2012, 05:36 PM
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(07-19-2012, 12:24 PM)xraygun Wrote: Phil,

I think elaborating more on how a group buy could/has kill/killed a product might help some understand. I doubt it's obvious to all.

Cheers,
Ray

I could but I really do not want to go into it. Let's just say that David, Joe (Shave-a-buck) and I suffered thousands in losses due to an ill-conceived group buy.

Group buys open up a can of worms that I really want to avoid for now.

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 07-19-2012, 06:10 PM
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  • bullgoose
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Every time I think about the Razor blade group buy, I see stars. BlushFacepalm

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 07-19-2012, 06:29 PM
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(07-19-2012, 06:10 PM)bullgoose Wrote: Every time I think about the Razor blade group buy, I see stars. BlushFacepalm

What is strange is once that group buy went down you have not heard a peep about the blades. No reviews , no buzz nada. I think the distributor killed his own market.

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 07-19-2012, 06:33 PM
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(07-19-2012, 06:29 PM)SteelTown Wrote:
(07-19-2012, 06:10 PM)bullgoose Wrote: Every time I think about the Razor blade group buy, I see stars. BlushFacepalm

What is strange is once that group buy went down you have not heard a peep about the blades. No reviews , no buzz nada. I think the distributor killed his own market.

He did. He got too desperate.

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 07-19-2012, 08:03 PM
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Undercutting your resellers is a good way to lose your resellers.

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 03-18-2014, 11:38 AM
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(04-12-2012, 12:25 PM)bullgoose Wrote:
(04-12-2012, 12:06 PM)Tbone Wrote: Regardless, it might be best to post explicitly stated group buy rules in a sticky or in the Forum rules section.

I think for now I will just say "No Group Buys" unless initiated and approved by the moderator team. There are a lot of potential pitfalls and this is the easiest way to avoid them.

Time for a bump.

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