06-22-2013, 09:14 PM
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I just tested my newly acquired two M¨hle STF v2 brushes.
One Mühle Sophist African Blackwood STF v2 in 23 mm and one Mühle Classic Faux Horn STF v2 in 25 mm and I have to say I'm quite impressed.

Both seems softer than STF v1 hair.

They have better backbone, while being soft at the tips - a thing only 2-Band badger brushes so far has provided me in feel.

They create lather faster, more explosive and better than ANY of the 100+ high end badger brushes I have used so far in my traditional wet shaving journey.

I have ultra hard water in Copenhagen Denmark, and creating a proper lather takes maybe 4-5 minutes, some times even more, while the same lather can be made in 1 minute with soft water. Just look at Teiste Youtube videos. The guy makes lather just from looking at the brush Biggrin

Also they dry extremely fast, the face feel is surprisingly good, if not excellent on my skin.
I liked both brushes, the larger one created lather faster, but I lost a little bit of control, the smaller one took longer, but I was more precise with that.

In fact I liked them both so much, that I seriously think of dumping my badger brush collection now. Not sure, but consider it as an option.

I might decide to keep my Top 10 badgers, and sell the 40 something of the rest, not sure yet. But I'm pretty sure I'm going the synthetic way now also, just like Teiste has chosen to (in his case because he is going vecan, but also because the performance is there)

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 06-22-2013, 09:19 PM
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Holy cow, Claus, that is a bold statement!
i enjoy synthetics, but i would never give up my badger brushes, now, that i have tried both.
i guess i need to try this new hair out to see if it is really that good. With our super soft water, here in Vancouver, i don't have any issue with creating lather, so i can't see myself letting go of the badgers. Blush
Good luck!

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 06-22-2013, 10:59 PM
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  • Teiste
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Now you understand , my friend.
Its not that all about that "Im going vegan" , to be honest.I have said many times that I like lmy shoes , wallet and belt made with real leather , and if animals are killed , lets , at least , enjoy all from the animal (including its fat) .However , I find that non tallow soaps works much better for me , and that the new synthetic fibres are simply amazing in performance.AndI have extreme hard water where I live in Utah , I can tell you right now , and I don't have (unfortunately) and water softener (yet).
I now expecting two shaving brushes from Frank Shaving (a 28 and 24 mm) which have what we have defined like silvertip fibre v 2.0 and Im sure theyre going to be winner.Also another 24 mm brush from a Spanish handle maker (El Druida) in Olive wood with the new fibre.
Glad to know that you are enjoying them as I do.

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 06-22-2013, 11:09 PM
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  • blzrfn
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The advantage that synthetics hold over natural bristle brushes is that every fiber in every knot is virtually identical. But, to me, that is also the downfall as I enjoy the variety of softness, backbone and water retention each different type of knot offers. I will keep synthetics in the rotation, but I couldn't use one everyday.

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 06-23-2013, 03:33 AM
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  • Arcadies
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I've already gotten rid of my badgers and have trimmed my boar collection down to only 4...perhaps less in the coming months. The lion's share of my lathering is done by my 3 synthetics.

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 06-23-2013, 04:12 AM
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Sold 4 of my Simpsons, a shavemac, a Kent and two Semogues since I treated me three Mühle V2 Synthies (21, 23, 25 mm). Now I'm down to 4 Simpsons and 5 shavemac badger brushes. If I can get an acceptable price for the Simpsons they'll have to go, too.

But I won't part with the shavemacs, at least not now. Even if they don't see much use these days. But the time, that I'll buy another badger brush is over for sure.

90% of all lathering is done now with the Mühle synthies, the badgers collect dust. As Claus said, the Mühle synthetics offer everything I expect from a brush in perfection.

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 06-23-2013, 04:26 AM
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Mon dieu! Qu'est-ce qui c'est passé ?! Exclamation

Claus, I have several of the newer FS synthetics, but still have room for my precious badgers ... these Muhle V2 must be quite amazing to potentially thin your impressive badger collection! Shy

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 06-23-2013, 04:34 AM
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  • ben74
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I'm thrilled to learn you are enjoying your synthetics.

These brushes have certainly advanced and now offer a very real alternative to natural hair and bristle.

There will always be preferences and thank goodness they will always differ from one person to the next.

My preference is badger, for others its boar and now there is a strongly emerging group dedicated to synthetics.

Despite our different and often fervent preferences there is still unity in our diversity and that is we have all chosen to make lather with a brush!

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 06-23-2013, 04:45 AM
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Interesting to read that someone with such a large badger brush collection may be swayed to convert to synthetic.

(06-23-2013, 04:34 AM)ben74 Wrote: I'm thrilled to learn you are enjoying your synthetics.

These brushes have certainly advanced and now offer a very real alternative to natural hair and bristle.

There will always be preferences and thank goodness they will always differ from one person to the next.

My preference is badger, for others its boar and now there is a strongly emerging group dedicated to synthetics.

Despite our different and often fervent preferences there is still unity in our diversity and that is we have all chosen to make lather with a brush!

The recent advancement is synthetic brushes really makes me want to try one, and I'm sure I will have to pick one up in short order.

I do have a recent preference for the Semogue mixed-knots, and am thankful for the many options available to us.

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 06-23-2013, 04:52 AM
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Great, another brush to hide from the wife....Smile

Does anyone know if all their brushes are now the V2 fibers?

I'm interested in the kosmo Silvertip in faux horn (31 K 872), and it appears that no one is (yet) stocking this brush in the new fiber.

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 06-23-2013, 05:05 AM
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(06-23-2013, 04:52 AM)david1201 Wrote: Great, another brush to hide from the wife....Smile

Does anyone know if all their brushes are now the V2 fibers?

I'm interested in the kosmo Silvertip in faux horn (31 K 872), and it appears that no one is (yet) stocking this brush in the new fiber.

If you order direct from Muhle or Edwin Jagger they are V2..it's more hit and miss with other vendors. Connaught Shaving has theirs marked as V2 and have their V1 brushes on sale now to clear stock.
Circumstances such as this have to be a pain for vendors, once something new comes out, even a slight change, customers won't touch it with a 10-foot pole and want the new version..so they're forced to clear out inventory.

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 06-23-2013, 05:45 AM
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I like the Mühke STF 2.0 - just used it this morning... Still I think my Simpson/Thäter/shavemacs/Rooney badgers offer a nicer face feel.

I cannot imagine parting with them. However, the STF is now part of my rotation as well.

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 06-23-2013, 06:04 AM
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Being someone who leans towards the opposite of an early adopter, one cannot get through any reading about the impact of the advances of synthetic brushes. Yet I'm heartened to hear about a new option for shave brushes that appears to be widely appreciated.

Having just come off my biggest year of shaving purchases, I"m going to hold off on buying a synth, but can imagine when the "what would you like for your birthday/christmas" question comes around a nice Muhle Silvertip Fibre may be the answer.

In a broader perspective the thought has occurred to me that we may be looking at the future of shaving brushes. Perhaps supply problems or increased government restrictions may pave the way for the widespread adoption of synth brushes?

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 06-23-2013, 06:11 AM
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(06-23-2013, 04:52 AM)david1201 Wrote: Great, another brush to hide from the wife....Smile

Does anyone know if all their brushes are now the V2 fibers?

I'm interested in the kosmo Silvertip in faux horn (31 K 872), and it appears that no one is (yet) stocking this brush in the new fiber.

This is what I am told.

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 06-23-2013, 06:22 AM
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I admire such fortitude! The only problem with the whole birthday/christmas thing is that it now becomes a brush that I have to keep for life....(learned that one the hard way..Biggrin).

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 06-23-2013, 07:01 AM
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(06-23-2013, 06:22 AM)david1201 Wrote: I admire such fortitude! The only problem with the whole birthday/christmas thing is that it now becomes a brush that I have to keep for life....(learned that one the hard way..Biggrin).

LOL, SmileI have to admit that I've sold a few razors that were such gifts. A couple of years ago, my wife was cleaning in the bathroom and inadvertently dropped a Parker 91R and snapped the POT metal bolt when it hit the ceramic tile floor. Truthfully I told her that I really didn't like the razor and that if there was one shave tool for her to damage, that was the one.

I'm pretty sure to her that one brush is the same as another (although she's not buying my observation that when stacked up on the same shelf, they breed and create new brushes).

In all seriousness other than exacting some humor at my expense, my wife is very supportive of my "strange hobby". Heart

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 06-23-2013, 07:13 AM
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(06-23-2013, 07:01 AM)redrako Wrote: In all seriousness other than exacting some humor at my expense, my wife is very supportive of my "strange hobby". Heart

Strange hobby? Try is as a career. You can imagine the looks I get when I tell people what I do for a living . Tongue

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 06-23-2013, 07:31 AM
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(06-23-2013, 07:13 AM)bullgoose Wrote:
(06-23-2013, 07:01 AM)redrako Wrote: In all seriousness other than exacting some humor at my expense, my wife is very supportive of my "strange hobby". Heart

Strange hobby? Try is as a career. You can imagine the looks I get when I tell people what I do for a living . Tongue

That's too funny, Phil.

Of course, if they only knew the amount of time we spend on the internet talking about shaving? My wife's funniest comment was when she walked into my study one night and I was looking at someone's post with a number of beautiful photos of a brush, "Can't you look at porn like other men"?

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 06-23-2013, 07:43 AM
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(06-23-2013, 07:31 AM)redrako Wrote:
(06-23-2013, 07:13 AM)bullgoose Wrote:
(06-23-2013, 07:01 AM)redrako Wrote: In all seriousness other than exacting some humor at my expense, my wife is very supportive of my "strange hobby". Heart

Strange hobby? Try is as a career. You can imagine the looks I get when I tell people what I do for a living . Tongue

That's too funny, Phil.

Of course, if they only knew the amount of time we spend on the internet talking about shaving? My wife's funniest comment was when she walked into my study one night and I was looking at someone's post with a number of beautiful photos of a brush, "Can't you look at porn like other men"?

Biggrin Too funny.

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 06-23-2013, 07:57 AM
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Good to read this post. I have been watching a guys videos from shavelogy i think about him using a men thater u synthetic exclusively and talking about how great it is.

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