07-17-2013, 02:04 AM
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I'm trying to get an idea of the face feel of Shavemac's finest badger. The website says that this grade of hair gives "a soft comfortable shave", but it doesn't address backbone. I lather on my face exclusively and use creams in the main. The brushes I find most satisfying in terms of face feel are the Simpson's Colonel with best badger, the Simpson's QE II Jubillee with Manchurian and the New Forest tubby with 2-band super. These badgers have soft tips, "springy" shafts without being rigid and good flow through. I'm considering buying a Shavemac brush in bulb shape with a 23 mm knot and 50 mm loft, but I can't decide which badger to get. I think their Sivertip would be too soft lacking backbone, but their DO1 2-band Silvertip would be too rigid and dense. Their DO1 Silvertip might be satisfactory, but again I'm concerned it might be denser and firmer than I would like. This leaves me wondering if the finest grade might be the right hair for me. Your advice would be appreciated.

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 07-17-2013, 03:43 AM
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I love their finest for face lathering (although I prefer the fan shape in a shorter loft). Super soft tips, plenty of backbone for hard soaps (I also face lather exclusively)

Haven't tried their Silvertip because I've read that people think it lacks backbone.

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 07-17-2013, 05:09 AM
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Hi Rufus, I have Shavemac's finest 23mm knot x 50mm loft in bulb. It doesn't have much backbone, however the hair it is incredibly soft. It's really hard to see how the regular silvertip could be any softer. I also have the D01 silvertip in three band - 24mm knot x 52mm loft which has good backbone and the springy hair you're after. The finest has finer hair shafts than the D01 3 band, with the tips curling on the finest. If you want to go the finest, maybe get a shorter loft maybe 46mm using the expert page.
http://www.shavemac.com/products/Experts...ELECT.html

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 07-17-2013, 07:23 AM
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I have a Shavemac 177. It is my favorite. Very soft tip, good backbone, lathers like crazy on soap and cream. Superb quality. Blows away my Seville Row 3824.

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 07-17-2013, 09:28 AM
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(07-17-2013, 07:23 AM)sandan Wrote: I have a Shavemac 177. It is my favorite. Very soft tip, good backbone, lathers like crazy on soap and cream. Superb quality. Blows away my Seville Row 3824.

What hair grade?

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 07-17-2013, 09:31 AM
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(07-17-2013, 07:23 AM)sandan Wrote: I have a Shavemac 177. It is my favorite. Very soft tip, good backbone, lathers like crazy on soap and cream. Superb quality. Blows away my Seville Row 3824.


I had the 177 in both finest and silvertip. I subsequently sold both and regret letting the finest go. More backbone than the silvertip with no scritch.

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 07-17-2013, 10:04 AM
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I just came across a thread started by Teiste on 10-08-12, entitled "Shavemac Badger Hair Grades", which gives an excellent and comprehensive description and comparison of each hair grade. The ensuing discussion is very informative also and gives additional insights into the hair grades. My thanks to the guys who have responded to my question.

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 07-17-2013, 12:20 PM
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(07-17-2013, 10:04 AM)Rufus Wrote: I just came across a thread started by Teiste on 10-08-12, entitled "Shavemac Badger Hair Grades", which gives an excellent and comprehensive description and comparison of each hair grade. The ensuing discussion is very informative also and gives additional insights into the hair grades. My thanks to the guys who have responded to my question.

You wont go worng with shavemac's finest badger hair grade , my friend.

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 07-17-2013, 12:30 PM
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(07-17-2013, 12:20 PM)Teiste Wrote:
(07-17-2013, 10:04 AM)Rufus Wrote: I just came across a thread started by Teiste on 10-08-12, entitled "Shavemac Badger Hair Grades", which gives an excellent and comprehensive description and comparison of each hair grade. The ensuing discussion is very informative also and gives additional insights into the hair grades. My thanks to the guys who have responded to my question.

You wont go worng with shavemac's finest badger hair grade , my friend.

Teiste, you're just the person I should talk to. This will be my first Shavemac so I have no experience with their badger hair. As you can see in my first post I use cream and lather on my face exclusively. Of my current brushes I like my Simpson's in best badger and my New Forest 2-band super the best. From reading your thread I come to the conclusion that Shavemac finest would suit me the best; do you agree? Note that I am prepared to pay the premium for the DO 1 3-band if that would be the better badger for me.

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 07-17-2013, 12:35 PM
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I just received these back from Bernd:

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Absolutely fantastic. The knot construction is just amazing, so precise, not a hair out of line.

Lofts were set perfectly, always worth speaking to Bernd to give his opinion.

Mine are set at 28/53 and 21/47.

For price and quality, it's 10/10 from me. Service is fantastic too.

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 07-17-2013, 12:49 PM
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(07-17-2013, 12:35 PM)Dipesh Wrote: I just received these back from Bernd:

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Absolutely fantastic. The knot construction is just amazing, so precise, not a hair out of line.

Lofts were set perfectly, always worth speaking to Bernd to give his opinion.

Mine are set at 28/53 and 21/47.

Very nice indeed. Which badger is it? Once I've been able to try a Shavemac for myself and if I really like it I just might send my Rooney Finest 2/1 to Bernd for re-knotting. Unfortunately, my Rooney seems to be wearing out; the centre of the badger hair is hollowing out and I can pick out really short strands of hair.

For price and quality, it's 10/10 from me. Service is fantastic too.

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 07-17-2013, 12:51 PM
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It's finest badger. Very surprised at the cost for the quality. €119 for both delivered. An absolute bargain.

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 07-17-2013, 01:45 PM
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(07-17-2013, 09:28 AM)olblueyez Wrote:
(07-17-2013, 07:23 AM)sandan Wrote: I have a Shavemac 177. It is my favorite. Very soft tip, good backbone, lathers like crazy on soap and cream. Superb quality. Blows away my Seville Row 3824.

What hair grade?

the 177 is their 3 band super badger. I also have a D01 3 band which is denser/firmer but also very soft on the tip. lathers very well. Both good quality for the money.

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 07-17-2013, 01:50 PM
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FYI if you want to try the finest, I'm selling a couple beauties over in the BST.

I love Shavemac finest, just trying to whittle my den down to 1 of these (instead of 3).

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 07-17-2013, 02:32 PM
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What hair grade do you guys recommend for Face Lathering, Soaps, with Good Flow?

I have been looking and reading and my head is ready to explode because people have lots of different lofts and thus they choose different grades.

Larger knot (25-28), bulb shape to go with the larger knot, loft will not be short (52-58).

Recommended Hair Type(s)???

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 07-17-2013, 09:25 PM
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(07-17-2013, 12:30 PM)Rufus Wrote:
(07-17-2013, 12:20 PM)Teiste Wrote:
(07-17-2013, 10:04 AM)Rufus Wrote: I just came across a thread started by Teiste on 10-08-12, entitled "Shavemac Badger Hair Grades", which gives an excellent and comprehensive description and comparison of each hair grade. The ensuing discussion is very informative also and gives additional insights into the hair grades. My thanks to the guys who have responded to my question.

You wont go worng with shavemac's finest badger hair grade , my friend.

Teiste, you're just the person I should talk to. This will be my first Shavemac so I have no experience with their badger hair. As you can see in my first post I use cream and lather on my face exclusively. Of my current brushes I like my Simpson's in best badger and my New Forest 2-band super the best. From reading your thread I come to the conclusion that Shavemac finest would suit me the best; do you agree? Note that I am prepared to pay the premium for the DO 1 3-band if that would be the better badger for me.

My friend , a 23 or 25 mm knot , with a 50/52 mm loft brush with finest badger would be good for that , specially for creams and facelathering with circular movements.Just ask Bern to make it with a more fan shaped than bulb.Trust me , you are going to like that brush without spending a large amount of money.

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 07-18-2013, 02:25 AM
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Teiste, thank you very much. I'll be ordering the brush today and It will have the Beehive handle in imitation ivory designed by Michael Rupp.

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 07-18-2013, 11:10 AM
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(07-17-2013, 02:32 PM)olblueyez Wrote: What hair grade do you guys recommend for Face Lathering, Soaps, with Good Flow?

I have been looking and reading and my head is ready to explode because people have lots of different lofts and thus they choose different grades.

Larger knot (25-28), bulb shape to go with the larger knot, loft will not be short (52-58).

Recommended Hair Type(s)???

One more recommendation please.

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 07-18-2013, 11:20 AM
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(07-18-2013, 11:10 AM)olblueyez Wrote:
(07-17-2013, 02:32 PM)olblueyez Wrote: What hair grade do you guys recommend for Face Lathering, Soaps, with Good Flow?

I have been looking and reading and my head is ready to explode because people have lots of different lofts and thus they choose different grades.

Larger knot (25-28), bulb shape to go with the larger knot, loft will not be short (52-58).

Recommended Hair Type(s)???

One more recommendation please.

My friend , the same recommendation : finest badger with a fan shaped.If not , D01 silvertip.The D01 two band is not my fav , but some prefer it for facelathering and hard soaps.

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 07-18-2013, 12:40 PM
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(07-18-2013, 11:20 AM)Teiste Wrote: My friend, the same recommendation: finest badger with a fan shaped. If not, D01 silvertip. The D01 two band is not my fav , but some prefer it for face lathering and hard soaps.

Thanks Teiste!

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