08-28-2013, 02:11 PM
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  • Rufus
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I'm going to place an order with Shavemac for a custom made brush and I see they offer a flat shape knot. Currently, I own 15 brushes of which 10 have fan shaped knots and 5 (including a Shavemac beehive) have bulb shaped knots. I was going to order a fan shaped knot, but it occurred to me that it might spice up my collection a bit to have a brush with a flat shaped knot. I face lather exclusively and use creams predominantly and my ideal fan shaped knot is 22mm/23mm X 48mm/50mm. The brush I'm thinking of would have DO1 2-band badger with a 20mm X 42mm flat shape knot. What do you think?

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 08-28-2013, 05:12 PM
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A flat knot is pretty exclusive. No one but Shavemac offers the style that I'm aware of.

Don't have one myself, but I hear it's pretty awesome for face lathering.

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 08-28-2013, 09:30 PM
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i have tried one flat-top brush and it had a large splay. Very good for face-lathering. Personally, it was too much splay for me and i prefer a hybrid of bulb and fan. i get more control for face-lathering. The flat-top would seem to be a good addition to your brush collection! Good luck. Smile

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 08-29-2013, 05:37 AM
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I have two custom Shavemacs and they both have DO1 2-band bulb knots. My next custom Shavemac will gave a fan knot. I don't like how the flat top knot looks, but it certainly would be a unique addition to your brush collection.

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 08-29-2013, 08:26 AM
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As celestino noted these knots will appear wider than your typical fan - in actual use - so your smaller knot will help with that. I have one with similar specs and will try to snap a photo for you for some comparison.

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 08-29-2013, 08:55 AM
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(08-29-2013, 08:26 AM)poonjaji Wrote: As celestino noted these knots will appear wider than your typical fan - in actual use - so your smaller knot will help with that. I have one with similar specs and will try to snap a photo for you for some comparison.

Thanks, that's what I thought and adjusted the knot size accordingly. I could, however, go smaller with a 19mm X 40mm knot or even 18mm X 40mm. Perhaps I should ask Bernd as well.

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 08-29-2013, 09:02 AM
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I had a model 173 with a D01 18mm extreme flat top knot that was excellent for face lathering. I ended up selling it because it was too small for me, but the quality was great.

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 08-29-2013, 09:11 AM
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(08-29-2013, 09:02 AM)churchilllafemme Wrote: I had a model 173 with a D01 18mm extreme flat top knot that was excellent for face lathering. I ended up selling it because it was too small for me, but the quality was great.

I bought John's brush, so I think that answers the question regarding specs. I believe it is 18mm x 40mm. The handle is small as he notes, but the knot feels bigger on the face...but clearly not that big.

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I believe the spec on the left brush is approximately 26mm x 45mm and the one on the right is a 4125 size 2. I will measure tonight.

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 08-29-2013, 09:50 AM
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Thanks for the picture, it helps me a lot. Until now I'd not seen a picture of a brush with a flat top knot. It is a radically different look to the bulb and fan shaped knots, so I want to think about it for a while longer. Fortunately I'm on holiday in the south of France for the next fortnight, so I'm not in a position to place an order and can look at it again with fresh eyes when I return home.

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 08-29-2013, 12:14 PM
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Michael, thanks for the pic! They definitely are a unique design, but not my cup of tea.

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 08-29-2013, 05:02 PM
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The flatter the knot the larger the feel on the face...

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 08-29-2013, 06:02 PM
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I recalled seeing a thread about another brush manufacturer making flat top brushes. There might be others, but here is one regarding Vie Long: http://shavenook.com/thread-i-d-like-to-...gifts-care

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 08-30-2013, 04:42 AM
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Rudy Vey has, so far, made 3 brushes for me using the Shavemac flat top knot. One is similar in design to the Eagle, the second a Persian Jar and lastly a Beehive. The 20mm x 41mm is my preferred size for face lathering, this size works best for me, the 22mm is too much badger in my face, 18mm way too little. There is something about the flat top knot that attracts me moreso than the fan or bulb knots, the L7 design is now calling me!

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 08-30-2013, 01:22 PM
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I make a lot of brushes with this kind of knot, and always recommend to chose a size of 18-22 mm, with the sweet-spot being 20 mm.
You have a lot of hair in your face and these knots feel much bigger, like they are 26-30 mm brushes. I would not go over the 22 mm size. They can get a bit uncomfortable if they are too big; I had one customer who wanted the 24 mm so bad, but it did not feel good at all. Never had the feel that these kind of knots have much splay, and if so, one may apply too much pressure.
For the loft, I would recommend to about double the knot size, i.e. for a 20 mm knot, a 40-42 mm loft.

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 08-30-2013, 01:35 PM
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^^^ Great advice from the master. ; )

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 08-30-2013, 08:06 PM
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I have a flat top with a 24 mm knot. It is my favorite brush. I don't have a picture available now. I'll try to post one next week.

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