09-18-2013, 07:16 AM
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  • Balj86
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I'm honestly stuck between two razors that I want to purchase. The Muhle R41 or The Razorock Jaws/Bastone. I have used the 2011 Muhle R41 before but eventually sold it. Does anyone have both these razors that can give me a good comparison please? Any help is appreciated and have a great day friends!

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 09-18-2013, 07:46 AM
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The only help I can give you is that I had the Muhle R41 2013 model and it wasn't much different in shaves with the 2011 model. It was a tad, and I mean tad, less aggressive. Regardless, I still found it such a harsh shaver that I promptly sold it.
Good luck!

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 09-18-2013, 10:11 AM
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I'll help enable you: buy both Biggrin

You owned and sold a Muhle R41. Buying the same razor again is kind of like marrying a woman, divorcing her, and marrying her a second time. What's the point? She's probably the same person. The same is true for the razor. You'll probably end up selling it once again.

Why not try an old school DE from the 40s/50s? Or maybe even a SE Gem?

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 09-18-2013, 11:13 AM
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  • Harvey
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Don,t get either of those...buy an IKON Slant and some decent soap,a shave bowl and a brush ...a few blades and just shave...you will never do much better....for variety also get a Merkur Progress and you are done.(maybe save a few bucks for the Huntlee coming up)

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 09-18-2013, 12:44 PM
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I really like Deco's response.

Buy Both!!!

You owned and sold a Muhle R41. Buying the same razor again is kind of like marrying a woman, divorcing her, and marrying her a second time. What's the point? She's probably the same person. The same is true for the razor. You'll probably end up selling it once again.Biggrin

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 09-18-2013, 02:13 PM
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I absolutely love aggressive razors so use that as perspective for what I'm about to write.

I find the '13 R41 to be quite domesticated compared to the '11 R41. I found a place in my cabinet for the '13 and I'm thinking about mothballing all of my Gillettes and using the '13 as my "mild" DE razor. It's all a matter of perspective.

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 09-18-2013, 04:35 PM
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Thanks my friends for all the different perspectives. I guess the muhle is out at this point andjump on the razorock jaw/bastone due to pricepoint. I already have everything else but want a open comb razor. Very bored of the closed comb b/c i have 3 different brands. Thanks again!

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 09-18-2013, 05:10 PM
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I have tried all three: 2013 R41, 2011 R41, and RazoRock Little Bastone open comb. The one I kept is the RazoRock OC. I will say that R41 is an outstanding razor. Both versions are excellent, but too aggressive for me. I enjoy an aggressive shave sometimes and R41 did not draw blood on me, but I just did not get a great shave from it. Paradoxically it shaved me worse than my Progress set to 4 or RazoRock OC. RazoRock oc is one of ther very best open comb razor heads I have tried. It is part of of my selected few razors I kept after pairing down to 6 razors or so. I've been using it for the past few days with a Derby blade and getting absolutely amazing results. YMMV.

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 09-18-2013, 06:02 PM
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Oh heck, let me throw another into the fire. Get a Tradere OC.

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 09-19-2013, 01:31 PM
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Or try one of the new Shave Craft heads (only $25.00...under Ikon "deals")...maybe the best of both worlds...SB and OC..new design...fits any handle or buy a new one...really sweet..smooth shaver

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 09-19-2013, 03:57 PM
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Buy them all Biggrin

My goal is to buy every DE razor available, that I just think more than once about buying Cool

So far I have amassed 42 NEW DE razors........not stopping, just slowing it down a bit - as I find it harder and harder to find new DE razors that I don't already have in my collection.....

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 09-20-2013, 04:56 AM
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LOL, I wish I could but I would rather spend my money on other things. But as a heads up I did order the Razorock bastone. Thank you my friends for all your help! Have a great day!

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 09-20-2013, 07:56 AM
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(09-20-2013, 04:56 AM)Balj86 Wrote: LOL, I wish I could but I would rather spend my money on other things. But as a heads up I did order the Razorock bastone. Thank you my friends for all your help! Have a great day!

RazoRock Little Bastone OC is one of the best shavers I have tried. It's got a bite, but not crazy. Go easy with it at first and do make sure the blade is in straight. It's an inexpensive razor and is pretty loose with the blade, but is easy to clamp up properly if careful. It exposes a lot of the blade, so be mindful, but it's a fantastic shaver. The price is nice, too. It is one of shavedom's best values.

Enjoy and let us know how you are getting on with it.

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 09-21-2013, 07:24 PM
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(09-18-2013, 07:46 AM)celestino Wrote: The only help I can give you is that I had the Muhle R41 2013 model and it wasn't much different in shaves with the 2011 model. It was a tad, and I mean tad, less aggressive. Regardless, I still found it such a harsh shaver that I promptly sold it.
Good luck!
Thank you, i was thinking about getting one.

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 09-24-2013, 08:56 AM
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(09-20-2013, 07:56 AM)vferdman Wrote:
(09-20-2013, 04:56 AM)Balj86 Wrote: LOL, I wish I could but I would rather spend my money on other things. But as a heads up I did order the Razorock bastone. Thank you my friends for all your help! Have a great day!

RazoRock Little Bastone OC is one of the best shavers I have tried. It's got a bite, but not crazy. Go easy with it at first and do make sure the blade is in straight. It's an inexpensive razor and is pretty loose with the blade, but is easy to clamp up properly if careful. It exposes a lot of the blade, so be mindful, but it's a fantastic shaver. The price is nice, too. It is one of shavedom's best values.

Enjoy and let us know how you are getting on with it.

So I finally received my RR Little Bastone! I had my first shave with it last night and it was great. It was aggressive but not as aggressive like the Muhle R41. So it'll be nice to use it an everyday shave. But before I shaved with loading the blade was a bit of a problem b/c the blade was not even on both sides. I guess its the b/c the blade itself was not precise. But other than that I am happy with purchase. But now my eyes are on the shavecraft after another member here on this thread mentioned it!

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 09-24-2013, 10:54 AM
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(09-24-2013, 08:56 AM)Balj86 Wrote: So I finally received my RR Little Bastone! I had my first shave with it last night and it was great. It was aggressive but not as aggressive like the Muhle R41. So it'll be nice to use it an everyday shave. But before I shaved with loading the blade was a bit of a problem b/c the blade was not even on both sides. I guess its the b/c the blade itself was not precise. But other than that I am happy with purchase. But now my eyes are on the shavecraft after another member here on this thread mentioned it!

I got the SaveCraft 101 mentioned above. It is a beautiful razor head and shaves well, but not as aggressive as the RR/Cadet OC. It is a smooth shaver, but one side is OC and the other is SB, so it's a bit confusing and I prefer the OC side, so the SB side was kind of idle for my shave with it this morning. Anyway, they are not yet widely available, so enjoy the RR OC as it really does shave a bit more aggressively and for me a bit easier to get that BBS. Still, SC 101 is one heck of a beautifully made razor head.

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 09-24-2013, 03:14 PM
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(09-18-2013, 02:13 PM)ShadowsDad Wrote: I find the '13 R41 to be quite domesticated compared to the '11 R41.

I have to agree with the above statement. To me the '13 R-41 is still aggressive but not as over the top aggressive as the 2011. It has a larger margin of error than the 2011. The 2011 version would bite if not treated with kit gloves.

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 09-24-2013, 03:26 PM
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hard to go wrong with the Muhle R41 2013 -- aggressively smooth Blush

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 09-25-2013, 09:06 AM
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(09-18-2013, 02:13 PM)ShadowsDad Wrote: I absolutely love aggressive razors so use that as perspective for what I'm about to write.

I find the '13 R41 to be quite domesticated compared to the '11 R41. I found a place in my cabinet for the '13 and I'm thinking about mothballing all of my Gillettes and using the '13 as my "mild" DE razor. It's all a matter of perspective.
I recently started DE shaving. Within a few weeks of starting DE shaving, I bought an R41 2013. I find it very efficient, only needing 2 passes. But it never leaves my skin feeling raw even when using Feather's(it does leave a lot of weepers with Polsilver Super Iridium)

(09-24-2013, 03:26 PM)Boonie21 Wrote: hard to go wrong with the Muhle R41 2013 -- aggressively smooth Blush
Aggressively smooth is a very apt description. I love my 2013 R41.

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 09-25-2013, 09:59 AM
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So to throw in another--FaTip Grande or Piccolo. I have the Piccolo. Lots of different handles can be used on them--thank you Alex 2363--and gives a darned good shave! Angel

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