09-29-2013, 03:19 PM
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Communication Jamais vu Beauty Model WH100B. CJB Blade Handle. CJB Razor. CJB Japanese style replaceable blade razor. CJB Kamisori. No matter how you say it, when you bring up the CJB you're likely to get the same response: praise followed by disappointment. Praise for the razor's low cost, overall good quality, and excellent performance. Disappointment at how difficult it can sometimes be to find these little gems. Having lusted after this razor on and off for the last year or so, I finally broke down and purchased one. Sadly, my first CJB had a defective tension spring which made loading and unloading blades extremely difficult (I even managed to bruise my finger tips while loading a blade). The spring snapped after two uses, turning the razor into a slightly expensive paper weight. Luckily the eBay seller, Purosdave, was quick to respond and replaced this first CJB with a properly functioning one. I can't speak highly enough about this seller. I don't know how many folks out there got their CJB and Sam Seong razors from Purosdave, but he is one of the folks working to spread these amazing razors to the western market.

Before I get into the actual review of this wondrous piece of shaving gear I just want to address a small issue that often pops up when folks talk about these razors: the use of the word kamisori. Kamisori is the Japanese word for razor. After speaking to several Japanese folks about this (and, yes they all thought that the question was weird) I have ascertained that this word is used to refer to any razor and does not exclusively refer to traditional Japanese style straight razors. Some folks in the traditional wet shaving community have taken to calling traditional Japanese style straight razors kamisori, and while this does make things simpler it also creates tension whenever anyone refers to anything else as kamisori. This is a ridiculous thing to get upset about for a number of reasons, but the most notable is that Japanese folks do not seem to use the term kamisori to refer exclusively to Japanese style straight razors. So, while I do not refer to the CJB as kamisori, I also do not get bent out of shape when someone does. And now onto our regularly scheduled review.

One of the most notable issues that people have when considering Feather AC/Kai Captain/Sam Seong/CJB razors is the price. I purchased my CJB for about $37, including shipping. This is a fairly reasonable price for a well made razor and did not give me any cause for alarm, but the blades are another story. The CJB uses the same blades as the Feather Artist Club, Kai Captain, and Sam Seong razors. These blades are, by far, the most expensive blades that I have come across in the world of traditional wet shaving. A package of Feather Professionals (the base line standard) will normally run around $20/20 which makes them $1/blade, or ten times the price of my favorite DE blades and about twice the cost of my favorite hair shaper blades. With some digging I found that it is possible to occasionally find Feather Pro blades for as little as $16/20, but this is still a pretty steep price. Many users of these types of razors claim that Feather Pro blades routinely last between ten and fifteen uses, which would help to justify paying such a high price, I suppose time will tell. In any event, one of the things that makes pause when considering a Japanese style replaceable blade razor is the overall cost. My initial purchase of a CJB, Feather plastic protector case, 1 package of Feather Professional blades, and 1 package of Feather Super Pro blades ran me about $80. For $80 I could have purchased a nice DE razor and a few hundred blades, so why in the world would I spend that much money to buy a razor that uses such high priced specialty blades? I have to admit that curiosity was what drove my initial decision, but the impressive quality and performance of the CJB and Feather Pro blades is what hooked me.

The CJB design and construction is all business. This is a razor designed to be as efficient and lean as possible, but constructed with quality materials. It feels nice and maneuverable in hand and has as little flash as possible. Its short Japanese style design means that the handle is ergonomic, the head is easy to use in tight spaces, and the whole thing feels solid without being bulky. The grey hard rubber handle is about 3 1/4" long and slopes gently upward to help angle the head properly when using it. There is a small notch for the thumb with jimps to help stabilize the razor as well as to ensure a solid grip, even when wet. The head is a little over 2 3/4" long and has the same design as the Feather RG non-folding razor (the spine is pinched to open up the blade holder and the side piece is removable to allow proper cleaning. The CJB does have a few quality flaws, such as molding not being cleanly cut away and a mediocre finish, but these are fairly minor issues and mostly aesthetic in nature.

The CJB is more or less exactly what I was expecting. The largest surprise for me were the blades. I was expecting Feather Pro blades to be just as long as hair shaper blades, but this is not the case. Feather Pro blades are 50mm long (or just under 2"), while Fromm and Personna hair shaper blades are 57mm long (or just under 2 1/4") and weigh about twice as much as Feathers. For a little bit of perspective DE blades are about 37mm long and Injector blades are 38mm long.

Thanks to my first one being defective, I have used the CJB only a half dozen times, but it has quickly become my go to razor. It is quicker and easier to use than a traditional straight razor, handles better than a hair shaper razor, and just plain looks cooler than a DE. Using the CJB I have gotten two pass DFS and BBS shaves with almost no effort. The myth that Feather Pro blades are far more deadly than other types of blades is just that: a myth. I found the blades no more blood thirsty than hair shaper blades and have yet to either nick myself or cause myself any serious irritation. While I would not recommend that a newbie jump onto this razor, I also would not hesitate to recommend the CJB to anyone who has enough skill to not mutilate themselves on an aggressive DE or SE.

In a relatively short time I have come to love the CJB. It is a quality razor with a little bit of mystique and a lot of ability. If you're lucky enough to find one of these razors for sale (they are always available through Gmarket, but they also pop up from time to time on eBay and are also occasionally found in the B/S/T threads of various forums) then I would absolutely suggest that you jump at the offer. You won't be disappointed.


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 09-29-2013, 04:06 PM
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Very good review and it is good to see you are enjoying the razor. Smile

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 09-29-2013, 08:01 PM
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Good review. There is a seller of the CJB and Dorco blades on badgerandblade.com. He had some for $30, shipping included, some weeks ago. He was living in Korea at the time and got them for cheap. The Dorco blades costs less than the Feather or Kai.

I've been shaving with a straight for over a year and for the last 3 months been shaving about once a week with the CJB, Sam Seong and now the Kai Excelia. A wonderfully easy shave.

Even Glen Mercurio admires the disposeable blade straight. He recently posted he would have chosen them as opposed to the straight razor, if they were around when he started using straights.

Purosdave is a good seller on ebay. I got my Sam Seong from him. The Sam Seong has a little slide on top to make for easy injecting and releasing the blade.

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 09-29-2013, 08:38 PM
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  • tgutc
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Nice review. You make it very tempting to try and find one for the price.

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 09-30-2013, 11:46 PM
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  • ben74
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Great review, thank-you!

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 10-01-2013, 11:16 AM
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  • slantman
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  • Leesburg, Florida
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Great review and pictures. I have thought about getting one of these razors but chicken out at the end. The eBay seller you mentioned is excellent and very reasonable for these razors and blades. His shipping costs are very low considering it includes tracking.

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 10-06-2013, 07:13 PM
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  • Kavik79
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I've been eying these for a while now...I own a folding Feather, but wasn't looking to spend that much again to try this style handle...you know, the Kamisori Tongue

This review is great though, no one ever seems to mention where they found theirs from. I'll definitely be keeping an eye on that seller.

One question though, in the pics, is that the Feather Pro blade installed? Or the Feather Pro Super? Just trying to get an idea for how closely this matches the Feather razors are far as how much blade is exposed

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 10-07-2013, 07:17 PM
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I'd seen some of these on eBay while looking for a Feather or Kai. I'd dismissed them because they were inexpensive. I'm glad for the review. I may just have to give them a try!

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 10-07-2013, 09:00 PM
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  • Kavik79
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  • Albany, NY - USA
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Ignore my last question....I'll be finding out for myself soon enough LOL

Found 1 on ebay that same night, for $32 shipped
This is interesting though, I was all excited that the seller is in the same state as me, figured it should get here nice and quick.....but the tracking info I got is "Korea post" Rolleyes

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 10-08-2013, 02:28 AM
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  • MikekiM
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(10-07-2013, 09:00 PM)Kavik79 Wrote: ...This is interesting though, I was all excited that the seller is in the same state as me, figured it should get here nice and quick.....but the tracking info I got is "Korea post" Rolleyes

Maybe the seller has family in Korea that ship to order.. ?

Great review.. I had a CJB a few months ago and loved the Kamisori style so much I upgraded to the Feather Dx. I use it often. Mostly when I am short on time but still want a straight style shave. I prefer the Kai Mild blades, but all of them are crazy sharp that they do in two passes what other razors take three and a touch-up.

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 10-08-2013, 08:00 AM
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  • Kavik79
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(10-08-2013, 02:28 AM)MikekiM Wrote:
(10-07-2013, 09:00 PM)Kavik79 Wrote: ...This is interesting though, I was all excited that the seller is in the same state as me, figured it should get here nice and quick.....but the tracking info I got is "Korea post" Rolleyes

Maybe the seller has family in Korea that ship to order.. ?

I dunno, but it definitely messes with the 'estimated ship date' listed in the ad.

It was the last thing he has for sale, but the user name was noone213, if anyone else wants to keep an eye out for more

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 10-09-2013, 03:03 AM
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  • tgutc
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I just purchased one from Pursodave on Ebay. I'm excited to give it a try. It will be my first foray into straights.

I wouldn't mind picking up one of those protective cases somewhere. Anyone know where I could get one. I did not see them in the ebay sellers store. Will the Feather case work if there is one?

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 10-09-2013, 05:32 AM
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(10-09-2013, 03:03 AM)tgutc Wrote: I just purchased one from Pursodave on Ebay. I'm excited to give it a try. It will be my first foray into straights.

I wouldn't mind picking up one of those protective cases somewhere. Anyone know where I could get one. I did not see them in the ebay sellers store. Will the Feather case work if there is one?

My experimentation with straight razor shaving went on and off. I had a few successful (==not bloody) shaves but at the time, I did not have the ability continue with this due to timing restrictions (2 newborn twins in the house).

I got a folding cjb on b&B, casus4844 is member there that has them from time to time. With a dorco blade it is *very* sharp and I got a nasty cut and even 2 months later - a little scar as a reminder. By very sharp I mean it is much sharper than a freshly honed regular straight razor, my comparison is to a half ground best class Dovo, honed at SRD, and I have done much worse mistakes with the Dovo that I was sure would end up with blood everywhere and nothing really happened. That would have not been the case had it been the CJB/Dorco combo...

Now, I can't say I was on the best form when I tried that shave. My curiosity and boredom were getting to me as at the time I was confined to bed with my leg elevated due to a broken ankle, so the whole setup was less than ideal.
However, I would suggest starting with pro-guards blades as they would give you a little warning if you are about to do something silly.

I am working on gathering the courage to give it another try... some day... I even have the pro-guard blades...

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 10-09-2013, 08:23 PM
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I have one from casus4844 as well, non folder, well built. casus is great to do business with. I saw somewhere that the non folder has the hole drilled if you want to remove the handle and put scales on it. He no longer has the folder. I like the non folder.

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 10-12-2013, 10:06 PM
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The blade in the pictures is a Feather Pro, but after several shaves I have found that I prefer the Super Pro blades.

The case is actually a Feather case, it works well enough, but does not fit as smoothly as it would an actual Feather razor. I got it because I did not like the idea of leaving an exposed blade sitting around, but I have found that while it is a good solution for storage, I would prefer a more streamlined case (the Feather case is a bit too bulky for my tastes).

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 12-23-2013, 06:52 PM
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  • geezer
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Thanks to you guys for the posts!
I've had mine since the Secret Santa gifting. I had the Feather RG plated brass folder and it was a good shaver with the Feather blades. This CJB came with a pack of Feather Pro Guard blades and the shaves, on my face, are superior to the smooth blade. I really enjoy the straight shank and have tightened up all my straights to use in that manner at least half the time. Great for chin and neck work.
~Richard
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 12-24-2013, 01:29 AM
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I worked up the courage and gave my folding cjb another go, this time with a pro-guard blade.
The shave was exceptional. One pass, for now, but very close and zero irritation.

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 01-05-2014, 01:02 PM
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Good review. The Feather DX/RG have a little bit better finish, but for the money, the CJB is a GREAT buy:
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 01-08-2014, 09:52 PM
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  • geezer
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The Feather cover will fit it well if you cut off that cover just behind the blade area where the blade is stopped by the internal curve of the cover.
Someone suggested it and mine came today. Works great! Beats the heck out of trying to keep it in the original box.
~Richard

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 01-09-2014, 08:57 AM
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Another option, someone suggested, is to flip the blade when not in use.

I had my 5th shave with the ProGuard blade. It tamed, or my skill is improving, either way the shave was very smooth without any harshness to it.

I am eagerly await the kamisori style one on its way from Korea.

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