09-30-2013, 12:23 PM
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  • Teddyboy
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I have received this brush about 5 days ago. Since then, I have face-lathered 4 times and palm-lathered another 3 times. This is an excellent brush, having good backbone and soft tips (not any scritch IMHO). It provides excellent lather from croaps or hard soaps. The handle is nice-looking and feels good in the hand. No glue bumps that I can detect.

One thing irks me - the shedding problem that this brush has and which has been discussed in this forum. The first palm lather released 10-15 hairs. The second about 6. Face lathering and subsequent palm lathering yield 1-3 hairs being shed. Given the size and density of the knot this is not a quantitatively significant loss. However, my other quality brushes,e.g., Shavemac and Rooney, and even most Simpsons, do not shed at all. Therefore the state of non-shedding is an demonstrable reality that some brushes do not easily achieve.

My latest approach is to comb the brush using a very, very broad comb (i.e., huge spaces between teeth)to accelerate the approach to non-shedding normalcy. It would truly be a pity if the shedding continues as this is an excellent brush that could easily fit into my rotation. I'm not giving up as it is brand new, but I wanted to add to the body of information regarding this brush.

Thanks for listening.

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 09-30-2013, 01:16 PM
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  • Agravic
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Thanks for sharing this feedback, Ted.

I just took receipt of this brush today, and will be test lathering it later tonight. I'll watch for any unusual shedding ... i.e. more than what is normally expected.

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 09-30-2013, 02:04 PM
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Ted, I also had some original shedding with the WSP Manchurian knot, but after the second day, it has all but stopped, now, since having it for 10 days.
I would have to reiterate your sentiments of it being a great knot with plenty of backbone and very soft tips. I hope you continue to enjoy the brush and I believe the shedding should subside, soon. If not, Lee does have a return policy on his brushes, I believe.

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 09-30-2013, 03:41 PM
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  • Teddyboy
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Ravi: I look forward to reading your feedback.

Celestino: Thanks for the encouragement. The WSP Stubby Manchurian is indeed an excellent knot.

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 09-30-2013, 03:57 PM
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Mine is currently awaiting a custom handle. Hope to report on this as well soon!

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 09-30-2013, 04:19 PM
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  • Agravic
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Preliminary report with my WSP Stubby Manchurian :

Test lather #1 : 10 hairs shed
Test lather #2 : 3 hairs shed

So far this pattern of hair loss is no different from any of my other new brushes, including M&F and Simpson. In fact some of my M&F and Simpson brushes shed 10-20 hairs the first lather and then quickly settled down.

The WSP Manchurian knot appears to be very well constructed ... generously dense, evenly distributed feel, and quite a backbone ... I'm impressed so far ... next stop is the face test! Biggrin

Also, the 'stock' WSP handle won't win any beauty pageants for being unique or distinctive, but I must say it's quite ergonomic in terms of feel and finger/thumb placement/grip.

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 09-30-2013, 06:49 PM
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  • Arcadies
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My first two WSP brushes (old first gen style stubby's) were bad shedders, I'm talking 30+ hairs the first few uses and continued to shed 10-15 every shave for months...I contacted Lee about it and he promptly replaced them. I finally got a "good" one on the 3rd try and it stopped shedding after about a dozen uses. I also purchased a Monarch HMW 3 band that never had shedding issues.

As for big name companies, I also had 2 Simpsons with severe shedding that never stopped and another that had a trickle of leaked/dried resin clumping the hair and oozed out onto the "shoulder" of the handle. Dodgy

So any brush, no matter who makes it, can have problems.

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 09-30-2013, 08:06 PM
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Any pictures of th this brush? Is it the same horn-like stubby handle?

Thanks y'all.

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 09-30-2013, 08:13 PM
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Brian, I presume that Ted has the same one as Ravi.
Here in post #159: http://shavenook.com/thread-monthly-haul...013?page=8

It is Lee's standard acrylic resin handles. They are really nice handles, but just too short for me.

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 09-30-2013, 08:16 PM
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Thanks Celestino. I agree, too short for me as well. I haven't pulled the trigger on this knot. Thanks for the reviews gentlemen.

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 10-01-2013, 10:53 AM
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  • Teddyboy
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Yes, the brush I received has the horn-like stubby handle pictured on the WSP website.

Shedding Update:
Face-lather and shave on October 1 - no hairs shed.

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 10-01-2013, 11:59 AM
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Ted, great news to hear that the shedding has subsided, for now. I can almost assure you that it will from now on.
Enjoy the brush. Smile

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 10-01-2013, 03:19 PM
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  • Agravic
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(09-30-2013, 04:19 PM)Agravic Wrote: Preliminary report with my WSP Stubby Manchurian :

Test lather #1 : 10 hairs shed
Test lather #2 : 3 hairs shed

So far this pattern of hair loss is no different from any of my other new brushes, including M&F and Simpson. In fact some of my M&F and Simpson brushes shed 10-20 hairs the first lather and then quickly settled down.

The WSP Manchurian knot appears to be very well constructed ... generously dense, evenly distributed feel, and quite a backbone ... I'm impressed so far ... next stop is the face test! Biggrin

Also, the 'stock' WSP handle won't win any beauty pageants for being unique or distinctive, but I must say it's quite ergonomic in terms of feel and finger/thumb placement/grip.

Update :

Lather #3 (face lather) : 4 hairs shed

Once again, this is no different from other new brushes I have 'broken in' ...

I have posted my preliminary review of this brush here.

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 10-02-2013, 02:46 PM
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Shedding update:

October 2; 5 hairs shed!!! Up from zero last shave.

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 10-02-2013, 07:25 PM
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Interesting updates on this brush! I continue to enjoy mine very much. It certainly is nice when I am shaving daily to have a "zero scritch" brush option in the den. It is second only to my butterscotch M7 2 band in brush indulgence.

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 10-03-2013, 08:32 AM
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Shedding Update for October 3: 2 hairs shed.

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 10-04-2013, 07:09 PM
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Shedding update October 4 - 1 hair shed.

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 10-05-2013, 09:08 AM
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  • Agravic
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Lather #4 - 4 hairs shed
Lather #5 - 2
Lather #6 - 0
Lather #7 - 0

I maintain my initial impression that this WSP brush has behaved no differently than any of my other brushes in terms of 'breaking in' and hair loss.

A superb brush overall ... I'm quite pleased.

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 10-05-2013, 03:04 PM
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Mine is finally done...I hope to give it a try sometime next week. I'll report back then. Here are a couple pics in the meantime.

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 10-05-2013, 06:48 PM
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  • Teddyboy
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Shedding update October 5;

Face lather - 0 hairs shed
Wife's gams - 0 hairs shed

This is looking good. Love the brush.

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