10-08-2013, 12:55 PM
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  • Johnny
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Alright gentlemen, who has experience with one of these? I'm thinking it might make a good travel brush, being synthetic fibre and all.

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 10-08-2013, 01:10 PM
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I have two.To be honest , go for it.While theyre not as dense as the Silvertip fibre (maybe only a 5% less) , they are great , wonderful performers , both if you face or bowl latherer.
Extra , and when I say extra I mean it , soft tips , and good backbone , not floppy at all.
Make lather in no time , gets dry in no time and are a pleasure to use.If you add that the HJM have an inexpensive price (less than the ones with the Muhle handles) you have a brush which is a bargain for its performance and quality.

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 10-08-2013, 01:12 PM
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Thanks Teiste.

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 10-08-2013, 03:28 PM
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I'd agree a good option, but the silvertip is a bit better if you face lather.

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 10-08-2013, 03:29 PM
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I actually have one that I'm not superbly fond of in the red color (tried selling it a little bit ago, no takers), but for reasons that I suspect are more "me" related than anything. It's amazingly soft, generates great lather, dries super fast, but I've moved towards face-lathering and prefer the bend and splay that natural hairs do.

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 10-08-2013, 03:57 PM
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Go for it! I have four--each with a different loft (from 66mm to 54mm). Muhle has been quietly improving the brush over the past two years. Still mid density. Still perfect for travel.

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 10-08-2013, 04:27 PM
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Definitely try it Johnny. I've had an earlier black fibre that I got from Phil & really enjoyed it though I found the loft to be a bit high. I recently ordered a new one with a shorter loft in one of the new Muhle VIVO handle. I can't wait for it to arrive.

Teiste described it very well. I also have a STF & much, much prefer the Black Fibre to it.

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 10-08-2013, 04:31 PM
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Next question, who sells the above brush?

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 10-08-2013, 04:32 PM
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(10-08-2013, 04:31 PM)Johnny Wrote: Next question, who sells the above brush?

Connaught

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 10-08-2013, 05:06 PM
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(10-08-2013, 12:55 PM)Johnny Wrote: Alright gentlemen, who has experience with one of these? I'm thinking it might make a good travel brush, being synthetic fibre and all.

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Johnny be careful. A second generation black fibre brush may just become more than just a travel brush. Biggrin

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 10-08-2013, 05:44 PM
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The handle reminds me of Kent...

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But hjm is a re-branded Muhle isn't it... ?

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 10-08-2013, 05:48 PM
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(10-08-2013, 05:44 PM)ben74 Wrote: The handle reminds me of Kent...

[Image: DOrW5TK.jpg]

But hjm is a re-branded Muhle isn't it... ?

Same handle but with a Muhle Black Fiber knot. There is at least one more brush that uses that handle, but I can't remember the brand right now.

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 10-08-2013, 06:34 PM
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(10-08-2013, 05:44 PM)ben74 Wrote: ...
But hjm is a re-branded Muhle isn't it... ?

HJM is a regular Muhle product from their factory. The line has its own catalog. It is Muhle's way to market lower-priced items. The initials stand for Hans Jurgen Nuller, the son of the company founder. HJM Black Fibre brushes are machine-made, and allow Muhle to pass the cost savings along to customers.

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 10-08-2013, 07:11 PM
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They are nice brushes; not much backbone, but for bowl-lathering they are really nice; extremely soft tips.
Have fun with it, Johnny! Biggrin

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 10-08-2013, 07:46 PM
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(10-08-2013, 04:31 PM)Johnny Wrote: Next question, who sells the above brush?

explodyii, in an above post wrote that he has one with a red handle if that won't bother you. He wanted to sell it. Maybe he can be talked into selling it again to save you some $? There's only one way to find out.

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 10-09-2013, 12:28 AM
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(10-08-2013, 06:34 PM)Codfish Wrote: HJM is a regular Muhle product from their factory. The line has its own catalog. It is Muhle's way to market lower-priced items.

The material in handles isn't exactly the same
The HJM pure bristle don't worth,too much shedding.

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 10-09-2013, 04:59 AM
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(10-08-2013, 07:46 PM)ShadowsDad Wrote: explodyii, in an above post wrote that he has one with a red handle if that won't bother you. He wanted to sell it. Maybe he can be talked into selling it again to save you some $? There's only one way to find out.

Good advice if you want to save money and like red.

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 10-09-2013, 05:29 AM
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(10-09-2013, 04:59 AM)Codfish Wrote:
(10-08-2013, 07:46 PM)ShadowsDad Wrote: explodyii, in an above post wrote that he has one with a red handle if that won't bother you. He wanted to sell it. Maybe he can be talked into selling it again to save you some $? There's only one way to find out.

Good advice if you want to save money and like red. However, if you want the best chance of getting the V2 version of Black Fibers, order from Connaught or Shaving.ie.

How will I know it's V2 Black Fiber when I get one?

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 10-09-2013, 05:48 AM
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That's a tough question Johnny, given how Muhle has decided to quietly update things. I think the best giveaway is the loft and the age. If it's a newer one then you have a better chance. Older ones will definitely be V1 fibres. I'm just not sure what that cutoff date would be, nor do I think anyone really knows that. The V1 fibres had higher lofts and only recently have the lofts gotten down to what I was looking for and that is because of these V2 fibres.

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 10-09-2013, 05:56 AM
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I guess I could order one direct from Muhle but they cost quite a bit more by doing that.

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