10-16-2013, 12:09 AM
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I have a R41 2013 I used about 20 times. I never drew blood with it. I really want to use this as my go-to razor but the only problem is I can't get a smooth shave with it no matter what I try. If I have a 3 day beard it is not smooth at all.
I'm not being a wiseguy but does anyone get a really smooth shave with an R41 razor?
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 10-16-2013, 02:09 AM
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It works great for me. I get very smooth shaves with it when I apply no (ZERO) pressure. It may cause irritation if even slight pressure is applied. That has been my experience. I have only used Iridium Super blades with it. I am sure blades would also make a difference.

I usually use it on a 3-4 days growth. Nevertheless, its the most effective from all that I have tried. I get a DFS in 2 passes, and I don't have no boy beard!

YMMV of course applies.


(10-16-2013, 12:09 AM)shave/brush Wrote: I have a R41 2013 I used about 20 times. I never drew blood with it. I really want to use this as my go-to razor but the only problem is I can't get a smooth shave with it no matter what I try. If I have a 3 day beard it is not smooth at all.
I'm not being a wiseguy but does anyone get a really smooth shave with an R41 razor?
Ron

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 10-16-2013, 03:36 AM
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  • Snuff
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I can get a very close shave from it but somehow it's not a really pleasant experience. Not that I get irritation or such but I have other razors that shave me almost as close and that I love using.

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 10-16-2013, 05:54 AM
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  • vferdman
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I had both 2011 and 2013 versions and I also could not get a smooth Shane with either one. Pretty good shave, but not super smooth. I also never cut myself with them, but jut could not get a good smooth shave. I realized R41 is not for me and sold mine. I get a much better and smoother shave with a Progress set to 4.

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 10-16-2013, 06:11 AM
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(10-16-2013, 02:09 AM)Arash Wrote: It works great for me. I get very smooth shaves with it when I apply no (ZERO) pressure. It may cause irritation if even slight pressure is applied. That has been my experience. I have only used Iridium Super blades with it. I am sure blades would also make a difference.

I usually use it on a 3-4 days growth. Nevertheless, its the most effective from all that I have tried. I get a DFS in 2 passes, and I don't have no boy beard!

YMMV of course applies.


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I get very smooth shaves from my 2011 R41. I also only use Iridium Super blades with zero pressure.

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 10-16-2013, 06:34 AM
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Can anyone? Yes.

Can I? No.

Will I ever try again? No.

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 10-16-2013, 07:46 AM
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I have to say I get great smooth shaves with the R41 as well, although it took a couple shaves to understand the beast.

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 10-16-2013, 07:51 AM
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Not I, as well; no cuts or great irritation, but no smooothness, whatsoever, for me. Blush

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 10-16-2013, 12:47 PM
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The R41 '11 version is hands down my favorite DE razor. Yes I get incredibly smooth BBS shaves from it that last many hours as a BBS, then many more hours as a DFS.

As mentioned, zero pressure*, use the absolute sharpest blades, and pay attention to technique. It's a huge mistake to try to tame the razor with a less than the sharpest blades. I use SI, Med Preps, or any Gillette blade from St Petersburg, and there are others that also work in it (SuperMax?); they all work fine. The key is sharpness, smooth is a plus also.

Even the '13 version is good, just not as good as the '11 for me. I find a grippy replacement handle also helps since it allows one to lighten the grip to help with the zero pressure requirement.

I like my R41s so much that the only DE razors still in the cabinet are a few pre-'18 Gillettes (shimmed) and the 2 R41s.

I think the problem folks have with the R41 is that it doesn't care if one could buy the razor, and it doesn't grade on a curve. One can either use it or one can't. If one can't and isn't scrupulous in critiqueing oneself to get the technique to where it needs to be, well, the razor is there to perform the critique and it's not always kind.

* zero pressure... what I mean by zero pressure is zero pressure on the skin, but enough resistence to prevent the razor from bouncing over the skin. There should be just enough pressure to allow the razor to caress the skin without pushing the skin in. It will stretch the skin in the direction of razor travel since the blade is trying to cut the whiskers and the whiskers resist the cutting, but the razor should not make the skin at all concave from pressure.

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 10-16-2013, 12:58 PM
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  • slantman
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Both the R41 2011' and 2013' are great shavers but not always smooth do to the toothed head design. If you have a three day growth and expect a smooth as butter shave forget about it. No razor will be that smooth because you will have a lot of hair to cut. The R41 is a cutting machine almost like a Toro mowerBiggrin

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 10-16-2013, 01:17 PM
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The 2013 is for me but it really smoothed out with a UFO Goliath handle stabilizing the razor head.

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 10-16-2013, 01:42 PM
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2011 R-41 is pretty much all I use. Usually a 2-pass DFS+++ shave, missing BBS by only a touch up or two, but ai do not bother with BBS anymore.

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 10-16-2013, 03:28 PM
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What if you did the first pass with a closed comb and then finished with the R41 open comb?

Just wondering.

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 10-16-2013, 03:32 PM
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I was able to get an extremely close shave with the 2011 R41, but definitely paid the price in irritation after. I plan on giving it a few more tries before giving up on it though!

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 10-16-2013, 05:48 PM
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The 2011 R41 gives me about the closest, longest-lasting shaves I can achieve (BBS late into the day). Not sure if you are referring to this, but the blade feel on the skin during the shave is not the smoothest of my razors for me...but no irritation.

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 10-16-2013, 07:44 PM
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If by smooth shave you are referring to closeness of the shave, then you will be well served reading the advice in the replies already posted. The R41 2011 should consistently deliver close shaves.

If by "smooth shave" you are referring to smoothness of the draw of the razor over the face, this is a function of technique and quality lather. Mikes Natural and Napa Soap Ocean Blend are two lathers that let my R41 feel almost bladeless. With reasonable technique these lathers deliver smooth shaves. However, the R41 will quickly lose smoothness with any shortfall in technique or lather.

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 10-17-2013, 06:55 AM
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(10-16-2013, 07:44 PM)Aimsport Wrote: If by "smooth shave" you are referring to smoothness of the draw of the razor over the face, this is a function of technique and quality lather. Mikes Natural and Napa Soap Ocean Blend are two lathers that let my R41 feel almost bladeless. With reasonable technique these lathers deliver smooth shaves. However, the R41 will quickly lose smoothness with any shortfall in technique or lather.

When I say "smooth" I am referring to the draw of the razor across the face. I get a BBS shave but a lot of pulling on the blade.

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 10-17-2013, 08:23 AM
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What blade are you using? That's exactly why 2 points were stressed regarding this razor.

I used mine this morning with 2 days growth and it worked fine, smooth in both meanings. I haven't gone for more than 1 day w/o a shave (2 days growth) since beginning blade shaving.

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 10-17-2013, 09:33 AM
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(10-17-2013, 08:23 AM)ShadowsDad Wrote: What blade are you using?
I used mine this morning with 2 days growth and it worked fine, smooth in both meanings. I haven't gone for more than 1 day w/o a shave (2 days growth) since beginning blade shaving.

The blade I've used most with this razor is the 7 O'clock yellow. I also used the Derby that came with it.
I don't have a heavy beard so since I've came back to wet shaving on a regular basis I usually shave every other day. I only went longer just as a test. It's not that bad if I stick with every other day shaving.

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 10-17-2013, 10:13 AM
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Congrats on bloodless BBS with the r41. That establishes your advanced skill. What is your soap/cream and prep?

(10-17-2013, 06:55 AM)shave/brush Wrote:
(10-16-2013, 07:44 PM)Aimsport Wrote: If by "smooth shave" you are referring to smoothness of the draw of the razor over the face, this is a function of technique and quality lather. Mikes Natural and Napa Soap Ocean Blend are two lathers that let my R41 feel almost bladeless. With reasonable technique these lathers deliver smooth shaves. However, the R41 will quickly lose smoothness with any shortfall in technique or lather.

When I say "smooth" I am referring to the draw of the razor across the face. I get a BBS shave but a lot of pulling on the blade.

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