11-03-2013, 04:49 PM
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I have been honing straights on lapping film, coticule (with some limited slow success) and JNAT (not very well, except for finishing) and was fearful of trying my Naniwa Super Stones, a Japanese synthetic.

Well, last night I braved it and honed 5 straights on Naniwa set, 1K for bevel-setting, 5K, 8K, 12K (for finishing). I then further finished on CrOx 0.5 micron and FeOx 0.25 on balsa followed by stropping on linen and leather on my Tony Miller Old No 2 Heirloom 3 inch strop.

I was following Lynn Abrams video while I honed. The shave test this morning proved the pudding. The edges were all superb, from Boker 1101 Finest India Steel shoulderless to Worcester to Green Lizard Cattaraugus Cutlery Co, Little River, NY to ERN Crown & Sword and 131B.


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 11-03-2013, 05:32 PM
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How was the result compared to lapping film in your opinion?

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 11-03-2013, 05:35 PM
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I think feel was a softer kind of sharp with the Naniwa.

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 11-03-2013, 06:07 PM
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Congratulations on the success with the Naniwas. I have heard some really good things about them.

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 11-03-2013, 07:09 PM
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Congrats Lindy. I have watched Lynn's video honing the Naniwa's several times in the past , he makes it look so easy. Smile

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 11-03-2013, 09:53 PM
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That's my exact progression Robert, 1K, 5K, 8K, 12K, I know there are a few who throw in the 3K but I simply cannot see or feel any difference it makes on the final edge, those Naniwa super stones always give consistent results and that's the reason why they are so very popular.PS a little tip I can see from looking at your stones that they are the 10mm variety, now If you shop around the very same Naniwa super stones on the same base but with a 20mm stone don't cost very much more but you are getting twice as much stone.

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 11-04-2013, 06:41 AM
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Jamie, I got this set from someone on a BST at a bargain price and was surprised at how thin they were. On further thought, it might be why they seemed so cheap. Next time I'll go for the thicker ones.

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 11-04-2013, 08:27 AM
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Congratulations, Robert. The 1, 5, 8 and 12K is my progression also. I am very much a novice but Lynn's method, especially with the circles for bevel setting, makes it fairly easy to follow and understand.

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 11-04-2013, 08:32 AM
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Hi Robert,

I too have a Naniwa SS setup of 1k, 3k/8k and 12k and it's been e revelation after trying to learn on a coti bout.

I do have a question for you, how do you find the edge off the 12k compare to the lapping films you've used?

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 11-04-2013, 08:34 AM
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This is a great post. After I master the straight razor shave, hopefully before my straight needs honing, I'll be ready to work on my honing. I'm definitely looking into these stones and adding the vid to my favs.

Thanks for this.

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 11-04-2013, 08:43 AM
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The naniwa are good stones.
The only thing I don't like about them is they're a little soft and need lapping often. Other then that, they work great.

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 11-04-2013, 08:50 AM
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I've heard varying things about lapping Naniwa. A friend who has Shaptons, Naniwa and many others, says he just lapped the Naniwa's when they were new and hasn't done so since. He does use his DMT325 to clear the metal swarf from the hones. Some people say just frequently clear it by hand under running water.

Don't all other hones/stones need lapping or are you saying Naniwa's need lapping more frequently due to the softness.

Glen Mercurio told me to look at his honing on Naniwa vids.





Glen also told me about his system of making a slurry with the DMT325 and Naniwa. Here's the page on SRP where he explains "The System". http://straightrazorplace.com/advanced-h...ers-5.html

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 11-04-2013, 09:19 AM
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If your using a "DMT325 to clear the metal swarf" after ever use, you are effectively lapping it every use Wink

All stone need lapping occasionally but naniwa SS stones tend to be a little softer then some others. The naniwa chosera is on the opposite end of the spectrum. I've had a chosera 1k for about 2 years and I've only lapped it 2 times (once when I first got it).

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 11-04-2013, 09:34 AM
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The chosera is a more expensive stone, I'm guessing.

I notice no swarf staying on the 8K and 12K yet, after 5 razor honings.

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 11-04-2013, 09:58 AM
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On saying that I that I have read a few articles where people who have owned both these stones say they prefer the Naniwa 12K over a Chosera 10K, and the Chosera 10K costs more than twice the price of the Naniwa 12K.

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 11-04-2013, 10:05 AM
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For razors, the SS is probably a better option. They both produce the same end result (more or less), but the SS feels softer when honing and is a LOT cheaper. Plus, you don't have to soak it or take extra care of it to prevent spider web cracks from forming.

Kind of a PITA for sharpening only one razor at a time.

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