11-22-2013, 05:12 PM
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I am a face latherer and want a very good Silvertip Brush -- I want it to be somewhat scrubby and have decent to strong backbone.

I hear great things about Savile Row, especially the 3824, but I am more fond of 26mm - 28mm diameters.

if you had to pick two Savile Rows that are your choice for what I am describing above, what would those two be?

how do you find that Savile Row ST's compare to Thater 4125 series brushes?

Thanks Everyone.

JB

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 11-22-2013, 05:18 PM
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(11-22-2013, 05:12 PM)Boonie21 Wrote: I am a face latherer and want a very good Silvertip Brush -- I want it to be somewhat scrubby and have decent to strong backbone.

I hear great things about Savile Row, especially the 3824, but I am more fond of 26mm - 28mm diameters.

if you had to pick two Savile Rows that are your choice for what I am describing above, what would those two be?

how do you find that Savile Row ST's compare to Thater 4125 series brushes?

Thanks Everyone.

JB

If I were to buy a Savile Row, it would have to be a Shavemac Finest Wink

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 11-22-2013, 05:37 PM
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(11-22-2013, 05:18 PM)Sodapopjones Wrote:
(11-22-2013, 05:12 PM)Boonie21 Wrote: I am a face latherer and want a very good Silvertip Brush -- I want it to be somewhat scrubby and have decent to strong backbone.

I hear great things about Savile Row, especially the 3824, but I am more fond of 26mm - 28mm diameters.

if you had to pick two Savile Rows that are your choice for what I am describing above, what would those two be?

how do you find that Savile Row ST's compare to Thater 4125 series brushes?

Thanks Everyone.

JB

If I were to buy a Savile Row, it would have to be a Shavemac Finest Wink

are you saying that Savile Row Silvertip is Shavemac Finest? are all knots for Savile Row made for them by Shavemac? Brush buying is so mysterious! lol

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 11-22-2013, 05:38 PM
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SR 3824 hands down... Very soft silvertip with sufficient backbone for soaps... Luxurious face feel... It is not what I would describe "scrubby"... Neither is the Thäter... Both excel in the softness department... A scrubby Silvertip choice is a shavemac D01 3 band...

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 11-22-2013, 05:46 PM
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(11-22-2013, 05:38 PM)German Wrote: SR 3824 hands down... Very soft silvertip with sufficient backbone for soaps... Luxurious face feel... It is not what I would describe "scrubby"... Neither is the Thäter... Both excel in the softness department... A scrubby Silvertip choice is a shavemac D01 3 band...


thanks so much.....have you all every tried a Duke 3 two band? I keep having that haunt me as the Holy Grail brush that I should be finding BUT I keep trying everything else to fill that void. Smile and I have never used one LOL

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 11-22-2013, 05:55 PM
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Yes, I do own a D3 in 2 Band... Excellent SOFT brush with great backbone!
(11-22-2013, 05:46 PM)Boonie21 Wrote:
(11-22-2013, 05:38 PM)German Wrote: SR 3824 hands down... Very soft silvertip with sufficient backbone for soaps... Luxurious face feel... It is not what I would describe "scrubby"... Neither is the Thäter... Both excel in the softness department... A scrubby Silvertip choice is a shavemac D01 3 band...


thanks so much.....have you all every tried a Duke 3 two band? I keep having that haunt me as the Holy Grail brush that I should be finding BUT I keep trying everything else to fill that void. Smile and I have never used one LOL

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 11-22-2013, 05:55 PM
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(11-22-2013, 05:37 PM)Boonie21 Wrote:
(11-22-2013, 05:18 PM)Sodapopjones Wrote:
(11-22-2013, 05:12 PM)Boonie21 Wrote: I am a face latherer and want a very good Silvertip Brush -- I want it to be somewhat scrubby and have decent to strong backbone.

I hear great things about Savile Row, especially the 3824, but I am more fond of 26mm - 28mm diameters.

if you had to pick two Savile Rows that are your choice for what I am describing above, what would those two be?

how do you find that Savile Row ST's compare to Thater 4125 series brushes?

Thanks Everyone.

JB

If I were to buy a Savile Row, it would have to be a Shavemac Finest Wink

are you saying that Savile Row Silvertip is Shavemac Finest? are all knots for Savile Row made for them by Shavemac? Brush buying is so mysterious! lol

What I was trying to say is, Charles In Charge won't admit or deny, Savile Row are actually Shavemac's. Having said that, I don't see why you would want something other than the Finest, which is just as nice if not better than Simpsons Best, when the Finest is fully broken in.

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 11-22-2013, 05:58 PM
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(11-22-2013, 05:46 PM)Boonie21 Wrote: thanks so much.....have you all every tried a Duke 3 two band? I keep having that haunt me as the Holy Grail brush that I should be finding BUT I keep trying everything else to fill that void. Smile and I have never used one LOL


* If you like the Duke 3, why not contact Mark to see if he can make you one in 2-band or Manchurian. I don't think it would be too much trouble for him. That might turn out to be your perfect brush. Good luck. Smile

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 11-22-2013, 06:00 PM
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(11-22-2013, 05:58 PM)celestino Wrote:
(11-22-2013, 05:46 PM)Boonie21 Wrote: thanks so much.....have you all every tried a Duke 3 two band? I keep having that haunt me as the Holy Grail brush that I should be finding BUT I keep trying everything else to fill that void. Smile and I have never used one LOL


* If you like the Duke 3, why not contact Mark to see if he can make you one in 2-band or Manchurian. I don't think it would be too much trouble for him. That might turn out to be your perfect brush. Good luck. Smile

that is a great suggestion BUT have you all had any experience with the Simpson Two Band or Manchurian? especially in a Duke 3 size knot? I am leaning toward this Savile Row 3824

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 11-22-2013, 06:32 PM
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Here come the many photos of German's 2-band collection Wink.

The SR3824 is a wonderful brush, but it is not scrubby at all. I'd take it over any thater because it is much more unique in what it does, but at the end of the day I like much scrubbier brushes and let my SR3824 go.

(11-22-2013, 06:00 PM)Boonie21 Wrote:
(11-22-2013, 05:58 PM)celestino Wrote:
(11-22-2013, 05:46 PM)Boonie21 Wrote: thanks so much.....have you all every tried a Duke 3 two band? I keep having that haunt me as the Holy Grail brush that I should be finding BUT I keep trying everything else to fill that void. Smile and I have never used one LOL


* If you like the Duke 3, why not contact Mark to see if he can make you one in 2-band or Manchurian. I don't think it would be too much trouble for him. That might turn out to be your perfect brush. Good luck. Smile

that is a great suggestion BUT have you all had any experience with the Simpson Two Band or Manchurian? especially in a Duke 3 size knot? I am leaning toward this Savile Row 3824

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 11-22-2013, 06:49 PM
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(11-22-2013, 06:00 PM)Boonie21 Wrote:
(11-22-2013, 05:58 PM)celestino Wrote:
(11-22-2013, 05:46 PM)Boonie21 Wrote: thanks so much.....have you all every tried a Duke 3 two band? I keep having that haunt me as the Holy Grail brush that I should be finding BUT I keep trying everything else to fill that void. Smile and I have never used one LOL


* If you like the Duke 3, why not contact Mark to see if he can make you one in 2-band or Manchurian. I don't think it would be too much trouble for him. That might turn out to be your perfect brush. Good luck. Smile

that is a great suggestion BUT have you all had any experience with the Simpson Two Band or Manchurian? especially in a Duke 3 size knot? I am leaning toward this Savile Row 3824

* I haven't tried the Savile Row 3824, but by its dimensions of 54mm loft and 24mm knot, I doubt you are going to get more scrub than a Duke 3 in 2-band as the Duke 3's loft is 46mm or so and that is a world of difference. I have tried a few Savile Row brushes and I would never call them 'scrubby'.
I had two Simpson Chubby 1s in 2-band and a Chubby 2 in 2-band and they were great brushes and I should have never let the Chubby 2 go. I still think the custom Duke 3 in 2-band would be a great brush as you can customize the loft and density. Good luck.

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 11-22-2013, 08:36 PM
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I've had two Thater two band brushes. They had "decent" backbone, but IMHO it was not "firm."

Sounds to me like you're really looking for a Simpson two band or a Shavemac DO1.

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 11-23-2013, 05:00 AM
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Boonie21, I have the Seville Row and Shavemac 177 silvertip. I much prefer the Shavemac to the Seville Row. For both face and bowl. It is very soft and has a good backbone. Their Do1 3 band is also soft but denser and stiffer. I like the Shavemac Do1 3 band very much as well especially for face lathering. Quality is top notch for the 177 and D01. I tended towards bigger brushes but have found that 23-24 MM bulb is the sweet spot for me. I don't have a Thater so cant say except there have been comments about recent quality but I don't have any hands on experience with that brand.

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 11-23-2013, 07:21 AM
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As noted above, Savile Rows are not scrubby. They're a cloud that because of the loft, bulb shape and hair, has backbone you wouldn't normally expect from this kind of silvertip. They are excellent at face lathering, and if you were still interested there's the 3126 and 3128 that have the knot sizes you listed. But if scrub is what you're after, look elsewhere. (The SR Bests and Pures may have more scrub, but they come with smaller knots.)

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 11-23-2013, 09:36 AM
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The SR 3824 is an excellent "all-rounder" with cloud soft tips. Hence, "scrubby" is different...

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 12-15-2013, 06:17 PM
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I've had an Eshan (2-band Super with Colonel handle) and had Mark make up a couple more for me in both 2- and 3-band Super, as well as a 2-band Super Polo 8. The Eshans came close to Duke specs, and all of the 2-banders had wonderful soft-scrubby hair, dense but still good flowthrough. Email Mark; Charles will always have another SR3824 if you change your mind. (Believe me, they don't vary much at all from year to year, batch to batch.)

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 12-15-2013, 07:36 PM
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I sure wish the 3722 came in a 24 or 26mm knot, because that is one gorgeous looking handle. Never tried a Saville Row, but I'm thinking a Duke 3 or Chubby 2 in 2 band is what you will end up finding to be what you are in search of...

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