12-26-2013, 02:34 PM
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  • Barrylu
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What we have known for years is finally being published.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articl...efits.aspx

I am reminded of a line from Guys and Dolls. The Salvation Army Major is drinking a cup of coffee and says something like: This is so good I wonder why it's not a sin?

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 12-26-2013, 02:49 PM
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Barry, after reading this, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Mercola, I wouldn't put the article down 100% but I would read it with a fair bit of caution and check out other sources.

Mind you, I still have my daily morning coffee (black, no sugar) and my health seems to be just fine for an old codger like me so who knows? Biggrin

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 12-26-2013, 02:54 PM
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(12-26-2013, 02:49 PM)freddy Wrote: Barry, after reading this, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Mercola, I wouldn't put the article down 100% but I would read it with a fair bit of caution and check out other sources.

Mind you, I still have my daily morning coffee (black, no sugar) and my health seems to be just fine for an old codger like me so who knows? Biggrin
Didn't know that about him. However Some of the sources he quotes are reliable. Thanks for letting me know about this individual

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 12-26-2013, 05:28 PM
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I regularly look at and refer people to Mercola's site. However, I use it as a jumping off point and advise people not to pay too much attention if it is a product that he is also selling and he says it is better than other similar products as that is pure marketing.

The wiki article seems to put some trust into the Quackwatch site as being a reason to watch out for Mercola. If that's the case then every single non-traditional Western MD needs to be of concern. Quackwatch is a joke & so is "Dr." Barrett. Mercola is easy to read and understand. That's why I send people there. Once they start having more serious questions I teach them to navigate PubMed so they can really research what all of the peer reviewed journals say about a given topic.

In regards to coffee the worst thing in it is what you typically add to it; namely sugar and any chemical sugar substitutes.

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 12-26-2013, 05:56 PM
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There's increasing evidence to suggest that coffee is not as harmful as previously thought, and may be beneficial.

Here's an interesting article published in The Atlantic, that cites various reputable sources, including NEJM. : http://m.theatlantic.com/health/archive/...ke/265693/

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 12-26-2013, 06:02 PM
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The problem today with quoting research is that it honestly all depends in who funded the research. There are few things out there that if I'm given enough time that I can't find published articles on a common topic with absolute contradictory findings. There is very little pure scientific method research going on today. Most studies are now conducted with an end result already in mind. If a certain group can't produce the end result then they find another group that can/will.

It all comes down to researching as much as you can on both sides of any topic and making the decision that is best for you and your family. The worst thing to do though is to make decisions out of ignorance which many do by just following the sheep. Think for yourselves people! Carry on!

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 12-26-2013, 06:10 PM
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Seems to me I read somewhere that a double cheeseburger with extra bacon and a large coke are really good for you.....but the pickle could kill you.....so be careful what you put in your burgers......thank goodness for the internet!!!!BiggrinTongue

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 12-26-2013, 06:16 PM
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(12-26-2013, 06:10 PM)Harvey Wrote: Seems to me I read somewhere that a double cheeseberger with extra bacon and a large coke are really good for you.....but the pickle could kill you.....so be careful what you put in your bergers......thank goodness for the internet!!!!BiggrinTongue

Nice, Harvey! Biggrin

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 12-26-2013, 06:23 PM
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(12-26-2013, 06:02 PM)SharpSpine Wrote: The problem today with quoting research is that it honestly all depends in who funded the research. There are few things out there that if I'm given enough time that I can't find published articles on a common topic with absolute contradictory findings. There is very little pure scientific method research going on today. Most studies are now conducted with an end result already in mind. If a certain group can't produce the end result then they find another group that can/will.

It all comes down to researching as much as you can on both sides of any topic and making the decision that is best for you and your family. The worst thing to do though is to make decisions out of ignorance which many do by just following the sheep. Think for yourselves people! Carry on!

A well thought out response, Brian. Thanks. Thumbsup

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 12-26-2013, 06:24 PM
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(12-26-2013, 06:10 PM)Harvey Wrote: Seems to me I read somewhere that a double cheeseberger with extra bacon and a large coke are really good for you.....but the pickle could kill you.....so be careful what you put in your bergers......thank goodness for the internet!!!!BiggrinTongue

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 12-26-2013, 06:47 PM
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Validity of scientific studies and sources may be a concern.

Regardless, my own common sense compels me to enjoy my daily coffee, without guilt.
Coffee, like many other things in life, is perfectly reasonable when consumed in moderation.

Biggrin

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 12-26-2013, 07:04 PM
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Ravi, please define 'moderation'. Winky

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 12-26-2013, 07:07 PM
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(12-26-2013, 07:04 PM)SharpSpine Wrote: Ravi, please define 'moderation'. Winky

In the case of coffee, 1-2 cups per day, usually in the morning ...
... followed by intermittent cups of tea for the rest of the day ... Biggrin

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 12-26-2013, 09:35 PM
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1-2 cups you say???

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 12-27-2013, 01:47 AM
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(12-26-2013, 09:35 PM)SharpSpine Wrote: 1-2 cups you say???

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Some mornings are more challenging than others ... that's when I have the second cup ... Tongue

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 12-27-2013, 02:08 AM
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 12-27-2013, 10:35 AM
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Great idea...I use an I.V. drip with a portable rolling stand and have a battery operated coffee maker in my back pack....great workout carrying 50 pounds of gear around....I,m in superb shape!!!!BiggrinTongue

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 03-15-2014, 03:17 AM
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Regular black coffee (without milk or cream) has a very low calorie count. A typical cup of black coffee only contains around 2 calories.

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 03-15-2014, 06:10 AM
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I drink my coffee with just a little cream. Real cream, no artificial stuff. I guess it is a miracle that I'm still alive since by myself I drink at a minimum 2 pots of coffee per day. During the cold winter months it is nothing for the wife and I to drink 3 to 4 pots in a 24 hour day.

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 03-15-2014, 07:34 AM
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Coffee is so much better than 90% of the other stuff that most people drink today. I say, enjoy it in good health! Biggrin

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