05-13-2016, 05:42 PM
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(05-13-2016, 01:32 PM)shaveser Wrote: This is one of the most helpful posts I've read regarding British Aristocrats.  Many thanks (and sorry for reviving an old thread - felt the need to acknowledge the great work!)

Glad you bumped it. This was a fantastic post that I had not seen before.

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 06-27-2016, 05:33 AM
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this post has been visited so many times to helped me reference that I needed a 15, 16, 21, and 22/66 in my collection, which I now FINALLY all have.   Not many razors prettier than those British Aristocrats.

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 08-05-2016, 08:01 AM
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Always a pleasure to see this thread and pasted pictures. I have all of the ones mentioned and totally agree with the OP's thoughts and conclusions.The British aristocrats for me are the shave world equivalent to vintage ferrari's.

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 02-16-2017, 01:01 PM
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I too have the bug for Aristocrats and the British Aristocrats are by far my favorites.
[Image: EjvZCo2.jpg]

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 02-17-2017, 08:37 AM
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This site is a treasure trove; especially for beginners! Information like this fuels the interest in making shaving so much more that the daily requirement. For me I started back to DE from cartridge this Xmas. My original goal was to use that as a stepping stone to a Straight Razor and maybe some collecting. After spending lots of Web time with posts like this; I'm now headed towards collecting DE ("shave worthy" rather than collector quality). Thanks for the in depth info!

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 02-17-2017, 11:01 AM
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(02-17-2017, 08:37 AM)RetroRon Wrote: This site is a treasure trove; especially for beginners! Information like this fuels the interest in making shaving so much more that the daily requirement. For me I started back to DE from cartridge this Xmas. My original goal was to use that as a stepping stone to a Straight Razor and maybe some collecting. After spending lots of Web time with posts like this; I'm now headed towards collecting DE ("shave worthy" rather than collector quality). Thanks for the in depth info!
If you ever want to take that step up to straight razors, let me know. I think I can help.

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 02-19-2017, 05:08 PM
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Thanks Dan; I will certainly do that!
Interesting that I started out in the mid-sixties DE shaving; now I'm learning it all over again some 50 years later. Much better results too; the dreaded daily chore has been turned into a pleasant 30 minute adventure each morning. 

Ron

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 05-29-2017, 04:29 PM
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I made a post a day or so ago detailing the differences between  two versions of the #15 OC. It has been suggested that one of these is in fact a #20 (the one with no stamps on the handle), however, I have no reason to think it is a #20, given the dissimilarities between mine and that #20 listed on Mr Razor's site. The one listed on Mr Razor's site has a stamped handle.

In my post, you will see that there is, in fact, a difference between the heads: the teeth. The #15 with stamps on the handle has thicker, more rounded teeth; the non-stamped  handled version has thinner, squarer teeth.  

Here is the post, with pictures:

http://shavenook.com/showthread.php?tid=...#pid805096

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 09-16-2018, 07:45 AM
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Bump

Firstly I have found this thread invaluable in my Gillette quest.

Second since we are breaking down British aristocrats into heads due to seeking the shaving experience rather than looks would we also argue that the aristocrat jr offer the same shave?

Thanks

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 09-16-2018, 07:56 AM
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(09-16-2018, 07:45 AM)Cearball Wrote: Bump

Firstly I have found this thread invaluable in my Gillette quest.

Second since we are breaking down British aristocrats into heads due to seeking the shaving experience rather than looks would we also argue that the aristocrat jr offer the same shave?

Thanks

I would say no. To me the handle on the Jr. is was too thin and therefore hard to grab comfortably. An HD 500 is closer to an Aristocrat #66 than the Jr with the same head IMO. That is not to say the shaving experiences aren't comparable. Its just that some handles don't feel all that great on my hand and that has an effect on the experience and sometimes even on the final result.

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 09-16-2018, 09:55 AM
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(09-16-2018, 07:56 AM)lloydrm Wrote:
(09-16-2018, 07:45 AM)Cearball Wrote: Bump

Firstly I have found this thread invaluable in my Gillette quest.

Second since we are breaking down British aristocrats into heads due to seeking the shaving experience rather than looks would we also argue that the aristocrat jr offer the same shave?

Thanks

I would say no. To me the handle on the Jr. is was too thin and therefore hard to grab comfortably. An HD 500 is closer to an Aristocrat #66 than the Jr with the same head IMO. That is not to say the shaving experiences aren't comparable. Its just that some handles don't feel all that great on my hand and that has an effect on the experience and sometimes even on the final result.



Thanks for the reply.

I intend to compare a aristocrat junior to the #21 I have.  Since they share the same head. 

Unfortunately I don't have an aristocrat #16 (3 gen) to compare to my aristocrat jr

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 04-23-2019, 12:20 PM
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Here's a question.

It says in the original post that they made #21 in gold.

Anyone ever seen one/have pictures?

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 04-23-2019, 01:12 PM
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Thanks so much for sharing this wonderful article.

I read through it and learned so much. For me the devil is in the details. 

you wouldn't happen to have all this summarized, would you?

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 04-24-2019, 08:09 AM
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(02-16-2017, 01:01 PM)doc47 Wrote: I too have the bug for Aristocrats and the British Aristocrats are by far my favorites.
[Image: EjvZCo2.jpg]

OMG....this is the first time Im seeing an Anglo-American aristocrat out of Mr Razors site.....there is is at 4 o clock.....would love to see more of it up close.
How does it shave?

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 08-19-2020, 06:01 AM
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Sorry to bump an old yet incredible thread. Since my fortunes have changed as well as my shaving style I’m ditching/ selling off ALL modern DE gear (to include Rockwell razors et al, new and reproduction brushes, scuttles, etc. and replacing with ALL vintage gear. I’m a retired service disabled Coast Guard Chief, body destroyed from years thinking we were Superman in heavy seas rescuing peeps - I have to shave every morning so I now take my time and want to thoroughly enjoy it. I no longer get up at 0430 to rush to work because idiots I mean constituents are screaming mayday... (“why yes sir, that forecasted Gale Force was “forecasted”, and that charted rock was really really there where the chart said it was...”).

I’m currently investing in a rotary tool and bench grinder/buffer to restore old classic brush handles with new knots, and so far scored a ‘63 birth year Slim Adjustable, and a Sheraton OC TTO.

Again, since fortunes have changed I began searching terms like “Holy Grail” razor, and am I wrong to assume the British Aristocrat #16 is one? Due to the flat floor plate adding weight and balance making it the heaviest? Like Momma said, “if it’s small and heavy it’s probably expensive and important” and made me put it down. Now that I’m partially an adult (still a brat according to my fiancé) I want that heavy expensive item...

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 08-24-2020, 09:00 PM
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Adding another thank you for a very useful thread.

(08-19-2020, 06:01 AM)ChiefX Wrote: am I wrong to assume the British Aristocrat #16 is one? Due to the flat floor plate adding weight and balance making it the heaviest?

Not an expert in anyway but in my readings, the 3rd and 4th gen Aristocrats are highly regarded / sought-after. #16 referring to the case set that a 3rd gen Aristocrat is in, and it appears in other sets too if my understanding is correct. Here's an informative thread from Badger & Blade describing the generations and sets. It describes the 3rd gen (#16) as the most efficient and the 4th gen (#66) as the smoothest, #66 being the person's favorite.

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