01-21-2014, 06:29 AM
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Anyone have any experience with these knots? I have one of the Superfine knots and think its terrific but wondering what I might find with HMW hair. I have Plissom, and have owned Rooney finest and Simpson so know what those are for comparison. I'm considering using one of these for an upcoming project.

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 01-21-2014, 06:49 AM
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I have used several WSP HMW knots and they are the best 3-band brush I've used by far. While I have never used Plisson or Rooney Finest I have used Simpson best and Super 2-band (not Super 3-band though, nor Manchurian). I find that the WSP HMW is a more resilient 3-band hair that still retains silky soft tips. Definitely worth using in your project and if you decide to do so then I will be looking forward to hearing your comparison to both Plisson and Rooney.

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 01-21-2014, 07:26 AM
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I am eagerly awaiting more responses.

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 01-21-2014, 07:56 AM
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my WSP HMW Manchurian was the best brush I have ever used --- amazing feeling and fantastic flow through --- I regret selling it.

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 01-21-2014, 08:07 AM
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(01-21-2014, 07:56 AM)Boonie21 Wrote: my WSP HMW Manchurian was the best brush I have ever used --- amazing feeling and fantastic flow through --- I regret selling it.

Can you compare your brush to other brushes? How soft were the tips, how much backbone did it have?

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 01-21-2014, 08:07 AM
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I have a WSP HMW in 3 band. What I like most about this knot is the resiliency of the hair and backbone. It has incredibly soft tips with backbone that is uncommon for 3 band hair.

The Manchurian is a completely different animal and not currently available. I have had 2 and recently sold 1. It is a very unique knot that is extremely dense. The individual hairs are remarkably thin, but very resilient. It provides a great backbone that is springy and a face feel that has a scrub or full-texture to it without a hint of scritch. I won't be parting with my 2nd one any time soon!

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 01-21-2014, 08:20 AM
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I have both a WSP "HMW Special Grade" 2 Band and 3 Band. Both have a 24/50mm knot and are placed in E7 handles. The 3 band handle is in Amboyna Burl and the 2 Band in Ironwood. According to Lee the "special grade" went through an additional sorting process to remove "imperfect" hair.

The 3 band has soft tips, but not Thaeter "pillow" soft. Rather a gentle scrubbing experience. A very nice face feel.

The 2 Band is exceptional: more backbone, thicker hair, but unbelievable soft on the face. For me it is like combining the attributes of Simpson Manchurian (flow, strength of hair) with the softness of Simpson 2 Band.

These are two truly exceptional brushes - combined with wonderful handles.

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 01-21-2014, 08:27 AM
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(01-21-2014, 08:20 AM)German Wrote: I have both a WSP "HMW Special Grade" 2 Band and 3 Band. Both have a 24/50mm knot and are placed in E7 handles. The 3 band handle is in Amboyna Burl and the 2 Band in Ironwood. According to Lee the "special grade" went through an additional sorting process to remove "imperfect" hair.

The 3 band has soft tips, but not Thaeter "pillow" soft. Rather a gentle scrubbing experience. A very nice face feel.

The 2 Band is exceptional: more backbone, thicker hair, but unbelievable soft on the face. For me it is like combining the attributes of Simpson Manchurian (flow, strength of hair) with the softness of Simpson 2 Band.

These are two truly exceptional brushes - combined with wonderful handles.

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I just ordered the larger version of this knot...HMW 2-band special grade. On its way to Rudy Vey today. I really hope I am in for a treat! It was partly based on your impressions! It is going into a taller MoonJava stock. Haven't quite nailed down the style yet.

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 01-21-2014, 08:38 AM
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Quote:I just ordered the larger version of this knot...HMW 2-band special grade. On its way to Rudy Vey today. I really hope I am in for a treat! It was partly based on your impressions! It is going into a taller MoonJava stock. Haven't quite nailed down the style yet.

I am not seeing HMW in 2 band on their site?

There's no distinction between 2 band and 3 band. Here is where I am looking -

WSP - HMW Badger knots

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 01-21-2014, 08:45 AM
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I think the "special grade" knots were a limited edition trial run. Since then, I believe he as offered the HMW 3 band in different sizes. But I have not seen the 2 Band either.

You may ask Lee (asharperrazor) to confirm.

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 01-21-2014, 08:46 AM
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(01-21-2014, 08:45 AM)German Wrote: I think the "special grade" knots were a limited edition trial run. Since then, I believe he as offered the HMW 3 band in different sizes. But I have not seen the 2 Band either.

You may ask Lee (asharperrazor) to confirm.

Yes...email or PM Lee. They were just finished, last night I believe. At least some of them.

Meaning...they are not posted on website as of yet. Wink

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 01-21-2014, 09:53 AM
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I have to concur with German's assessment of these knots, but I have only tried the 2-band version.
I actually found the Stubby Superfine 2-band knots a tiny bit softer than the HMW. The latter has a more scrubbier feel to it; not much, but a tiny bit; I think these knots might, possibly, be the best knots I have tried for their price/performance. I would have to say, though, the WSP Manchurian knot that Lee, originally, offered was the best knot for the price/performance that I have ever tried. These knots had incredibly strong hair that translated into fantastic backbone with very soft tips; not as soft as the two previously mentioned knots, but very soft, indeed.

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 01-21-2014, 10:32 AM
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(01-21-2014, 09:53 AM)celestino Wrote: I have to concur with German's assessment of these knots, but I have only tried the 2-band version.
I actually found the Stubby Superfine 2-band knots a tiny bit softer than the HMW. The latter has a more scrubbier feel to it; not much, but a tiny bit; I think these knots might, possibly, be the best knots I have tried for their price/performance. I would have to say, though, the WSP Manchurian knot that Lee, originally, offered was the best knot for the price/performance that I have ever tried. These knots had incredibly strong hair that translated into fantastic backbone with very soft tips; not as soft as the two previously mentioned knots, but very soft, indeed.

Even more excited for this one now...Did you ever write up a review on it?

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 01-21-2014, 10:32 AM
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(01-21-2014, 08:20 AM)German Wrote: For me it is like combining the attributes of Simpson Manchurian (flow, strength of hair) with the softness of Simpson 2 Band.

I have never given WSP a thought as I have zoned in on specific brushes, but this particular statement right here just might have changed my mind.

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 01-21-2014, 10:37 AM
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(01-21-2014, 08:46 AM)CJames Wrote:
(01-21-2014, 08:45 AM)German Wrote: I think the "special grade" knots were a limited edition trial run. Since then, I believe he as offered the HMW 3 band in different sizes. But I have not seen the 2 Band either. . .

Yes...email or PM Lee. They were just finished, last night I believe. At least some of them.

Meaning...they are not posted on website as of yet. Wink

I know Lee had some non-Super 2-band HMW left in stock, but not posted, as of a couple weeks ago. Are you saying the Super/Special Grade is available again?

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 01-21-2014, 10:58 AM
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(01-21-2014, 10:32 AM)Shanman Wrote: I have never given WSP a thought as I have zoned in on specific brushes, but this particular statement right here just might have changed my mind.

* Jeff, you really should try one of these 2-band knots, either the HMW or the Stubby Superfine. I think you will be very pleasantly surprised. Smile

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 01-21-2014, 11:10 AM
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(01-21-2014, 10:37 AM)rsp1202 Wrote:
(01-21-2014, 08:46 AM)CJames Wrote:
(01-21-2014, 08:45 AM)German Wrote: I think the "special grade" knots were a limited edition trial run. Since then, I believe he as offered the HMW 3 band in different sizes. But I have not seen the 2 Band either. . .

Yes...email or PM Lee. They were just finished, last night I believe. At least some of them.

Meaning...they are not posted on website as of yet. Wink

I know Lee had some non-Super 2-band HMW left in stock, but not posted, as of a couple weeks ago. Are you saying the Super/Special Grade is available again?

As per conversations in the last couple days...Yes, in 26mm and 28mm size.

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 01-21-2014, 12:12 PM
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(01-21-2014, 10:32 AM)Shanman Wrote:
(01-21-2014, 08:20 AM)German Wrote: For me it is like combining the attributes of Simpson Manchurian (flow, strength of hair) with the softness of Simpson 2 Band.

I have never given WSP a thought as I have zoned in on specific brushes, but this particular statement right here just might have changed my mind.

No kidding.

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 01-21-2014, 12:33 PM
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(01-21-2014, 11:10 AM)CJames Wrote: As per conversations in the last couple days...Yes, in 26mm and 28mm size.

<sigh> I wish I had known the Special 2-band was in the works again. I would have held off on the SuperFine, now en route.

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 01-21-2014, 01:01 PM
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(01-21-2014, 10:32 AM)CJames Wrote:
(01-21-2014, 09:53 AM)celestino Wrote: I have to concur with German's assessment of these knots, but I have only tried the 2-band version.
I actually found the Stubby Superfine 2-band knots a tiny bit softer than the HMW. The latter has a more scrubbier feel to it; not much, but a tiny bit; I think these knots might, possibly, be the best knots I have tried for their price/performance. I would have to say, though, the WSP Manchurian knot that Lee, originally, offered was the best knot for the price/performance that I have ever tried. These knots had incredibly strong hair that translated into fantastic backbone with very soft tips; not as soft as the two previously mentioned knots, but very soft, indeed.

Even more excited for this one now...Did you ever write up a review on it?

* No, I have not.

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