02-04-2014, 05:32 PM
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I have never really gotten along too well with badgers. I have owned a few over the years but always let them go. I own one Simpsons Eagle 2 in best now and I rarely use it.

I use my Semogue boars all the time. I'm looking to expand my arsenal and thought I would explore synthetics.

I mostly face lather so looking for something with backbone but I would like to experience soft tips for once.Wink I see a lot of posts about various synthetic brushes but don't know which would be best for me. Any help would be appreciated.

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 02-04-2014, 06:10 PM
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Most all the synthetics will have soft tips. The H.I.S. is super soft. My favorites are the Muhle synthetics, the silvertip fibre, V1 and V2 type fibers.

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 02-04-2014, 06:12 PM
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You might want to look at this thread to provide more information on synthetics.

http://shavenook.com/thread-synthetic-br...ns-updated

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 02-04-2014, 06:24 PM
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(02-04-2014, 06:12 PM)GDCarrington Wrote: You might want to look at this thread to provide more information on synthetics.

http://shavenook.com/thread-synthetic-br...ns-updated

Very informative, thank you. After reading that I may sell my Eagle and spring for one of the higher end Muhle brushes.

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 02-04-2014, 06:49 PM
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I face lather exclusively; own Mühle Black & Silvertip Fibre; have used a HIS. My favorite by far is the L'Occitane Cade Plisson. 2nd place goes to the Mühle Black Fibre.

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 02-04-2014, 06:58 PM
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(02-04-2014, 06:49 PM)SharpSpine Wrote: I face lather exclusively; own Mühle Black & Silvertip Fibre; have used a HIS. My favorite by far is the L'Occitane Cade Plisson. 2nd place goes to the Mühle Black Fibre.

That's interesting. In the short amount of research I have done, I came to the conclusion that the Black Fibre was too soft with no backbone. Perhaps I should reconsider.

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 02-04-2014, 07:24 PM
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The BF is very soft with little backbone. More like a silvertip. I would recommend the STF if you want some backbone, especially coming from boars.

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 02-04-2014, 08:32 PM
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So many options, really. You can just get a Whipped Dog synthetic and ask Larry to shorten the loft which will provide ample backbone. The Gen 3 fibres are still a great value. I have one Frank Shaving Gen 3 with a 24 X 48mm knot that has great backbone with extremely soft tips. Best synthetic I have tried so far for the money.
Good luck.

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 02-04-2014, 09:30 PM
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My personal favorite is my Franks Shaving 28mm Pure Tech. I recently re knotted a vintage ever-ready 100T and used a whipped Dog synthetic and the user, who has 3 other synthetics, likes this one best. He says it is the softest with best backbone and good water retention.

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 02-04-2014, 09:41 PM
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Why don't you get along well with badgers, when you own the Eagle in best ?

I think you will find very nice synthetic brushes for face lathering, but why not explore the badger waste land of brushes first ?

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 02-05-2014, 03:53 AM
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(02-04-2014, 06:49 PM)SharpSpine Wrote: I face lather exclusively; own Mühle Black & Silvertip Fibre; have used a HIS. My favorite by far is the L'Occitane Cade Plisson. 2nd place goes to the Mühle Black Fibre.

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 02-05-2014, 05:24 AM
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Mühle 31 H/K brushes are very good.
I have a 31 H 870 but any of these brushes will have the same knot:

31 K 252, 256, 257
31 K 872, 876
31 H 870, 873

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 02-05-2014, 10:53 AM
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Thanks for the suggestoins everyone. I have a Muhle Black Fiber on the way from the BST here. It was priced right and I figure it will at least give me an idea if I want to expand into synthetics.

Does anyone know the dimensions on the L'Occitane Plisson brush? I tend to favor smaller brushes and smaller handles and while it looks like a nice brush, it looks large.

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 02-05-2014, 01:28 PM
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I don't have calipers but here are some comparison pics with my Mühle VIVO.

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 02-05-2014, 01:33 PM
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Those photos are quite helpful. Thank you! That changes my perception of the brush. I may head to L'Occitane tomorrow to check them out. They seem to be priced competitively too.

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 02-05-2014, 01:37 PM
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Call L'Occitane first. I went to mine and they were all out. Both of mine were ordered via their website; $55 plus tax & free shipping. Can also get a free tote bag with the coupon code "TOTE" (if still available).

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 02-05-2014, 01:42 PM
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(02-05-2014, 05:24 AM)suffolksupplies Wrote: Mühle 31 H/K brushes are very good.
I have a 31 H 870 but any of these brushes will have the same knot:

31 K 252, 256, 257
31 K 872, 876
31 H 870, 873

I got all my Muehle V2 brushes from Connaught...Ordered once on a Friday and had my brushes on the next Thursday. I prefer the smaller knots too...no larger than 21mm and prefer the 19mm best, but even the largest knot works, too...I just don't like making that much lather and the big knots make a ton...

Good luck!

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 02-05-2014, 01:45 PM
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I have some other from FS and i hane tested Omega-Vulfix naylon-Lijun-Bosy shop-Muhle black fibre but the winner is:

(02-04-2014, 09:30 PM)Jimmyinkedup Wrote: My personal favorite is my Franks Shaving 28mm Pure Tech.

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 02-05-2014, 08:25 PM
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I have a WD syn. and a Muhle 23mm STF V2. The WD has plenty of backbone at normal loft, like it a lot. The Muhle is a little nicer but costlier. The WD is going to my youngest to get him started but I'll be keeping the Muhle for a long time, nice backbone and very soft tips.

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 02-05-2014, 10:11 PM
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Easy answer for me Biggrin

If you like firm backbone , Muhle STF 25 or 23 mm one will fit you perfectly

If you prefer more flow and extra soft tips , Plisson L'Occitane or Muhle Black Fibre

Of all the brushes , my fav one for facelathering is Plisson L'Occitane.Perfect if you facelathering with circular or painting strokes.

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