02-14-2014, 12:06 PM
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  • v4257
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Based on digging around these threads - when it comes to no-nonsense 1-stop synth brushes - the 2 mentioned in the subject line get the most praise.

Any opinions on which one is better - esp for a face latherer?

The L'occitane Plisson retails for $55 (incl FS).

Muhles seems to have a wide range - but seem to start at $24 (for e.g. this nifty model)this nifty model.

Which one do you recommend and why?

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 02-14-2014, 12:51 PM
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This is all YMMV...

However, I owned a Muehle STF 2.0 and a Black Fibre 2.0 and the Plisson.

I sold both Muehle brushes and kept the Plisson.

The black fibre was aesthetically beautiful (Vivo line in faux horn) but the knot was mall (21mm) and the face feel was rather springy. The STF had a better face feel but still felt too springy when facelathering.

For my taste the Plisson has the best face feel when facelathering with circular motion. That in the end made the difference for me.

All three are decent brushes though...

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 02-14-2014, 01:20 PM
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I agree with German that the Plisson is a better experience all the way around. I do differ in thinking that the Black Fibre from Muhle is better feeling than the STF.

The brush you linked to by the way I just got for a friend who just started traditional shaving (red ash wood handle though) and he is loving it.

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 02-14-2014, 03:19 PM
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Thank you. Looks like a Plisson Synth is in my future.

I'm a boar brush face latherer with Omega#48 as daily driver. Never got on with badgers. Hoping that Synths will be best of both worlds.

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 02-14-2014, 03:44 PM
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I'll chime in coming from using only Boars. I have all the variants that have been mentioned in this thread and for the money the best brush in the Muehle Black Fibre V2 Brush, but the best face feel is the Plisson. I'm not convinced though that best face feel is the best lather-making brush as my Muehle STF V2 brushes all make the same quality, if not better quality lather as the Plisson does. I know this varies and depends upon many factors, but this is my feeling on the matter.

As for aesthetics, I prefer the Muehle STF V2 Brushes...for me they are just better looking, but that's subjective, and only my opinion.

In any case, you will not go wrong in purchasing any of these specific brushes. Since I tried the black Fibre I have sold or given away all my Boars and Badger, save 1, my original M&F 1/1.

One word of caution...Synthetic brushes hold all the lather in their core, so be prepared for that. It is just a different experience than using a natural bristle brush.

Good luck!

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 02-14-2014, 04:54 PM
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(02-14-2014, 03:44 PM)Crag Wrote: I'll chime in coming from using only Boars. I have all the variants that have been mentioned in this thread and for the money the best brush in the Muehle Black Fibre V2 Brush, but the best face feel is the Plisson.

Speaking of value-for-money: I'm given pause by the fact that my fav Omega#48 (which lasts a v v long time) is $8.75 vs $55 for the L'occitane. It just doesn't make sense to me.

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 02-14-2014, 05:05 PM
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I'm having this same dilemma. I have used the black fiber and it was nothing like described by others. It had way more backbone than I expected and was difficult to splay.

I'm thinking the plisson might be right for me.

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 02-14-2014, 05:42 PM
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The more complaints I read about the black fiber having too much backbone and being hard to splay makes me want to buy one. I prefer strong backbone and have been very disappointed with synth's in the past due to them being too floppy. The wood handled Muhle in the link posted above is a great looking brush for $24. I like the look of the HJM Black Fibers too. What are Connaught's shipping prices like to the US?

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 02-14-2014, 05:47 PM
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(02-14-2014, 05:42 PM)tgutc Wrote: What are Connaught's shipping prices like to the US?

Free shipping above 60GBP. Otherwise varies by weight - add to cart to see exact rate.




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 02-14-2014, 10:24 PM
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(02-14-2014, 03:44 PM)Crag Wrote: I'm not convinced though that best face feel is the best lather-making brush as my Muehle STF V2 brushes all make the same quality, if not better quality lather as the Plisson does.

I agree on that. Best face feel goes to the plisson but I prefer the Muehle when it comes to making lather, both are great brushes and I'm reaching for them a lot.

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 02-15-2014, 04:51 AM
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I prefer the Muhles, but if you really appreciate softness, the Plisson is special. I'm glad to have both types.

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 02-15-2014, 02:57 PM
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I have had the Black Fibre and STF in 23 and 25mm and the Plisson. I only have the Plisson and a 24mm WD Synthetics now.
They are all good brushes but I prefer the Cade Plisson hands down. I bowl lather with creams exclusively.

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 02-17-2014, 04:07 PM
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I have the Muhle STF 25mm and the Plisson. Love them both.

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 02-17-2014, 08:04 PM
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I tried resisting -- like that last dentist holding out against Crest -- but finally caved: one Plisson synthetic headed this way. Still plenty of room for the Simpsons when it decides to join the party.

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 02-18-2014, 07:44 AM
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For all impulse buyers... check your local stores. Called my local L'OCCITANE store. They have "a bunch" of the synthetic Plissons in stock.

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 02-18-2014, 11:09 AM
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(02-18-2014, 07:44 AM)Aimsport Wrote: For all impulse buyers... check your local stores. Called my local L'OCCITANE store. They have "a bunch" of the synthetic Plissons in stock.

Good job enabling! Biggrin

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 02-19-2014, 03:00 PM
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(02-14-2014, 12:06 PM)v4257 Wrote: Based on digging around these threads - when it comes to no-nonsense 1-stop synth brushes - the 2 mentioned in the subject line get the most praise.

Any opinions on which one is better - esp for a face latherer?

The L'occitane Plisson retails for $55 (incl FS).

Muhles seems to have a wide range - but seem to start at $24 (for e.g. this nifty model)this nifty model.

Which one do you recommend and why?

Hands down the Plisson, it's the only brush I've ever felt the need to purchase a backup. Must be those soft tips and perfect amount of backbone. It also creates monster lather Biggrin

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 02-22-2014, 06:38 PM
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I didn't shave this morning, expecting the Plisson's arrival later today. It showed up just a few minutes ago, so a quick measurement (22.3/54.5mm), shampoo and lather later, and I can say it beats the Muhle hand's down in every department that has meaning for me. Everything happened so quickly, maybe I was dreaming it. An instant avalanche of lather, and now the darn thing is almost dry and it hasn't been 15 minutes since I set it down. Maybe I was watching a Teiste video.

It is very soft, and maybe that will wear on me eventually, I don't know -- but the price for that is absolutely no irritation afterward like I've gotten with some firmer brushes. Today's soap was RazoRock Chianti Lavender, and I hope to run some Tiki soap and T&H Rose cream through it soon but expect the results will be similar.

If I was smart I would end the brush hunt here and now, but alas . . . At least I think the synthetic end of the chase is settled.

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 02-22-2014, 07:01 PM
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(02-22-2014, 06:38 PM)rsp1202 Wrote: I can say it beats the Muhle hand's down in every department that has meaning for me. Everything happened so quickly, maybe I was dreaming it. An instant avalanche of lather, and now the darn thing is almost dry and it hasn't been 15 minutes since I set it down.

+1 The Plisson is amazing. With just a little pressure and moving in circles the tips work the lather into the face wonderfully. Backing off pressure and straightening the strokes and suddenly you are painting on a thick, really thick, covering of lather. Rate at which it picks up my soaps from a puck is just right for me. Not too fast, or too slow. Let's me tune the load of cake precisely and yet reasonably quickly.

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 02-22-2014, 07:16 PM
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You've described the experience exactly.

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