02-16-2014, 07:14 AM
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Hi Gents,
I have heard that a stiffer brush and face lathering is preferable for Mitchell's Wool Fat Shaving Soap. I currently have a Monarch Silvertip and a Parker Best Badger.
Should I look for a stiffer Boar bristle brush?
Thanks for your input.

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 02-16-2014, 07:31 AM
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  • Rufus
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I use my Kent BK4 and WSP Monarch Silvertip, neither of which is renowned for its backbone, with MWF and make as good a lather as I make with my brushes with much more backbone. In general, though I find my soft brushes with backbone at the lower end of the range, e.g. Shavemac 410 Silvertip, Shavemac Beehive Finest, Thater Silvertip, much more satisfying to lather with than my brushes with more backbone, e.g. Simpson's Chubby 1 best, Simpson's Tulip 2 super. I should not, however, that I only lather on my face, be it with soap or cream.

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 02-16-2014, 07:31 AM
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  • BobH
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I would use what you have to see if it works with MWF first. I say that because the few brushes I have ranging from Manchurian badger, silver tip badger, 2 band badger, Muhle V2 synthetic silver tip fiber and down to my Omega and Semouge boar brushes will muster a good lather for face lathering MWF.

Bob

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 02-16-2014, 08:52 AM
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(02-16-2014, 07:31 AM)Rufus Wrote: I use my Kent BK4 and WSP Monarch Silvertip, neither of which is renowned for its backbone, with MWF and make as good a lather as I make with my brushes with much more backbone. In general, though I find my soft brushes with backbone at the lower end of the range, e.g. Shavemac 410 Silvertip, Shavemac Beehive Finest, Thater Silvertip, much more satisfying to lather with than my brushes with more backbone, e.g. Simpson's Chubby 1 best, Simpson's Tulip 2 super. I should not, however, that I only lather on my face, be it with soap or cream.

Thank you Rufus.

(02-16-2014, 07:31 AM)BobH Wrote: I would use what you have to see if it works with MWF first. I say that because the few brushes I have ranging from Manchurian badger, silver tip badger, 2 band badger, Muhle V2 synthetic silver tip fiber and down to my Omega and Semouge boar brushes will muster a good lather for face lathering MWF.

Bob

I think I'll give my current brushes a try Bob, but I am am always looking for a new excuse to add to my equipment. Wink

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 02-16-2014, 09:20 AM
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What about a Duke 3 in Best.

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 02-16-2014, 09:30 AM
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  • BobH
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Bob
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I think I'll give my current brushes a try Bob, but I am am always looking for a new excuse to add to my equipment. Wink
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Yea, I do the same thing with the "excuse" issue.

Bob

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 02-16-2014, 10:41 AM
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Yes, I agree that you should be able to get along more than fine with the brushes you currently have. I personally have not experienced the difficulties nor needed to try any tricks with MWF, even in my "very hard" water. So don't have too much trepidation.

When you think about it, making lather is pretty easy: you either need more soap, more water or more time. Looking at the lather and your brush will tell you which one you need.

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 02-16-2014, 10:55 AM
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  • Giorgio
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The only accommodation I ever had to make for my soaps/brushes is my denser brushes require more loading, which is expected. From my softest silvertip to my firmest 2 band, both ends of the spectrum can handle any soap just fine.

Now in the interest of excuses...Yes, you absolutely need another brush. Sorry, no way around it. Your current set up cannot handle MWF and you need a dedicated brush Biggrin!

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 02-16-2014, 11:01 AM
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  • tgutc
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If you need an excuse to add another brush I can help Smile. I would suggest everyone try a good boar. A Semogue 1800 or 620 would be great choices if you face lather. A 1305 or 1250 would be good choices if you bowl lather. For whatever reason I prefer boars for soap and badger for cream. Either will handle cream and soap just fine though.

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 02-16-2014, 11:11 AM
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I like to use my Semogue 1305, although other brushes work well such as the Omega Mighty Midget.

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 02-16-2014, 11:14 AM
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  • Stubbl E
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I don't think the Mitchell's requires any special considerations as regards a brush so I would say just use whichever brush you like. I happen to like a firm brush and so for me it's an Omega 40033.

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 02-16-2014, 11:37 AM
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I use two band and three band badgers and a boar. Good results all. For me the turning point was submerging the soap for few minutes prior to use.

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 02-16-2014, 02:18 PM
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  • Elendil
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Over the last month, I've used a Simpson P8, Vulfix 2234S, Shavemac 3 band D01 and Savile Row 3722. These range from the super dense Shavemac to far less dense Vulfix, and all lathered MWF with ease. What you have should do just fine, but I agree, every den should have a quality boar brush or 6.

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 02-16-2014, 05:46 PM
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Well,
You've all convinced me. I need a few more brushes! Biggrin

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 02-16-2014, 06:27 PM
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(02-16-2014, 05:46 PM)primotenore Wrote: Well,
You've all convinced me. I need a few more brushes! Biggrin

* Excellent! Always good to have variation! Biggrin

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 02-17-2014, 08:03 AM
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  • Johnny
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Just about any brush will make a good lather with MWF. If you have not read this, check this link out.

http://shavenook.com/thread-how-to-lathe...at-in-bowl

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 02-17-2014, 08:05 AM
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  • Johnny
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Also check out this video of a guy face lathering MWF with a Kent BK4.


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 02-17-2014, 08:54 AM
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  • Elendil
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(02-17-2014, 08:05 AM)Johnny Wrote: Also check out this video of a guy face lathering MWF with a Kent BK4.

I've seen the MWF makers quoted as saying that MWF works best when face lathered. Personally, that's my preference as well.

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 02-17-2014, 08:57 AM
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  • Johnny
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Bob, I also face lather MWF with all of my brushes, badger, boar, and even my hjm synthetics.

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 02-17-2014, 09:07 AM
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I don't find MWF picky like some people do - I've never soaked it. That being said, it might be something to do with my brushes all being good backboned 2 bands. My 2xl eats it right up. Nom nom nom. Biggrin

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