02-25-2014, 06:34 AM
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Gents,
I have some great badger brushes Badger, but want to add a boar to my collection. The Semogue 620 and 830 get great reviews and the only difference I can see is a 5mm bristle loft.
I know there are opinions as to boar brushes out there amongst you ; I would appreciate your opinions.
Thanks everyone. Thumbsup

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 02-25-2014, 06:45 AM
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  • Balj86
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There both amazing SB in my opinion. I alternate between Badger and Boar. Once broken in properly there great for either bowl or face lathering. You will not be disappointed.

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 02-25-2014, 11:33 AM
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The bristle in the 620 is Extra Grade - firmest Semogue bristle, 75% tops - has to do with the percentage of bristle at the tip of the knot and helps determine the behavior of the knot...I'm not aware of a 90% tops Extra so don't think of it as inferior. It is well-known for its excellent backbone, face-lathering prowess that maintains a relatively smaller "footprint" on the face even when broken in. The bristle will take longer to soften and for the knot to open up than the 830 and even once broken in, it will maintain the very slightest scrub and, for lack of better words, thickness or coarseness to the bristle feel (compared to the 830).

The 830 has a similar plexi handle but is different and is actually 1mm taller. It uses the same Premium Grade 90% tops bristle as the well-known 1305 but in a 15% denser knot. It will flex and splay more but many still like it for face-lathering. It will also break in faster.

I am of the opinion that a well-broken in Semgoue boar, regardless of the grade, will have soft tips (like a very good two-band or possibly silvertip...definitely softer than pure or best badger grades). The 620 will just take longer to get there.

As a face-latherer of hard soaps who likes backbone (and Semogue boars in general), I imagine you can read my personal bias is for the 620.

Many enjoy the 830 for being a slightly denser 1305 but with a plexi handle. And many find solace in the 620 who were constantly searching for a supreme face-lathering brush that brings the backbone to bear.

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 02-25-2014, 11:52 AM
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Thank you for that very informative response. I really appreciate it.

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 02-25-2014, 03:18 PM
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(02-25-2014, 11:52 AM)primotenore Wrote: Thank you for that very informative response. I really appreciate it.

Let us know what end up with and how it works for you.

I suppose it comes down to:

Compact, strong backbone face-latherer = 620
More luxurious bristle with good splay = 830

And the 610 fits between the two if you can't decide.

Frankly, the 830 and 620 are different enough to easily justify owning both Smile

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 02-25-2014, 03:51 PM
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Well... Being a Semogueiro, I would say both are great brushes,but my pick would be the 830.
That being said, Semogue SOC cerda (bristle) is the best boar brush out there today. IMO
It takes a while to break in, because of the boar grade, "special", but once it is... Man, what a amazing, soft and lather-maker brush. Not to mention the great backbone!

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 02-25-2014, 04:01 PM
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I love my 620!

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 02-25-2014, 09:09 PM
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My fellow shavers. The winner is....the Semogue 620.
I am looking forward to reporting my results. Thanks to all of you for weighing in. Smile

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 03-04-2014, 02:53 PM
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Follow up on the 620. Great backbone; it seems that it will break in easily too. I am leaving my WSP Monarch on the shelf. I really like the size and the results.
Thanks for all of your advice.

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 03-04-2014, 04:07 PM
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Does the 620 come in undyed bristles?
Personally I can't stand the dying of boar bristles as I prefer their natural look.

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 03-04-2014, 05:30 PM
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(03-04-2014, 04:07 PM)Darkbulb Wrote: Does the 620 come in undyed bristles?
Personally I can't stand the dying of boar bristles as I prefer their natural look.

No. The closest you can get to an undyed 620 is the 610. They have the same loft and knot size.

But that's also where their similarity stops. Because the knot of the 620 has 75% extra tops and the 610 has 90% best tops.


Semogue 620
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Semogue 610
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 03-04-2014, 05:46 PM
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(03-04-2014, 04:07 PM)Darkbulb Wrote: Does the 620 come in undyed bristles?
Personally I can't stand the dying of boar bristles as I prefer their natural look.

Unfortunately, no. The undyed 90% tops knots are all different, but very nice as well.

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 03-04-2014, 07:29 PM
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I'm lovin' this brush, even with the dye. It performs like a much more expensive brush. Great addition to my den.

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 03-04-2014, 07:32 PM
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I'm waiting for an 830 to show up. I ordered it after reading about it's soft tips and splay, and after watching shaving videos where it lathers up like a champ. That's a boar I think my skin can tolerate. My only "complaint" about it is I wish the acrylic handle was clear and black instead of red.

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 03-04-2014, 07:33 PM
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The 620 is a soap killer, Enjoy!!

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 03-04-2014, 08:17 PM
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If you mean it can overload and use your soap up quickly, I can see that. I'll be cautious. The good outweighs the bad in this case. IMO.

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 03-04-2014, 08:53 PM
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Glad you are enjoying the brush; it will get exponentially better over the next couple months of use. You may try letting it completely dry out over 2 days or so to allow the tips to split and speed up the break-in process.

I think Toby means it in the best way: the 620 picks up soap handily and lathers like a champ. Go ahead and kill that soap; it's already dead.

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 03-04-2014, 08:55 PM
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Lol yes i meant it in a good way a mans man kinda brush, great exfoliator too.

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 03-04-2014, 10:08 PM
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Boars are exceptional brushes despite the low cost. I agree with Toms assessment too about the way it will feel after break in. They are exceptionally soft when wet.

Now you need to try an Omega or 2.

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 03-05-2014, 09:56 AM
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What's another brush or five?Angel

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