03-05-2014, 12:00 PM
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Gentlemen:

The Simpson synthetic Chubby LE's are up today. Six colors available. They're all beautiful and choosing a color is difficult. For me it came down to the coral or cobalt. I ordered one in cobalt. After the conversion to dollars, the final cost, including postage, was $146.25.

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 03-05-2014, 12:55 PM
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  • BobH
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Thanks for the heads up. Brush is ordered and fingers are crossed. SWMBO also picked the cobalt, sorry.

Bob

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 03-05-2014, 01:01 PM
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  • Johnny
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Is that correct, $146.25 for a synthetic brush? If so I will just have to pass and save up a little more for a Chubby 2 in best badger.

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 03-05-2014, 01:04 PM
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(03-05-2014, 12:55 PM)BobH Wrote: Thanks for the heads up. Brush is ordered and fingers are crossed. SWMBO also picked the cobalt, sorry.

Bob

The amber is already sold out and as I write this there is only one cobalt left.

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 03-05-2014, 01:05 PM
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  • German
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Better be worth it...

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 03-05-2014, 01:06 PM
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  • Teiste
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(03-05-2014, 01:01 PM)Johnny Wrote: Is that correct, $146.25 for a synthetic brush? If so I will just have to pass and save up a little more for a Chubby 2 in best badger.

I wont buy that brush for that price...Muhle XL 25 mm STF better option and price.

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 03-05-2014, 01:15 PM
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  • BobH
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Yea, the price is a head banger alright but what the heck. Yea, the Muhle XL STF is a very good brush at a more attractive price point for sure. I really enjoy using my Muhle XL but want to see the difference in the two loft sizes makes in use. Anyway, that's my excuse and I am sticking to it.

Bob

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 03-05-2014, 01:20 PM
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Yep, the price is off-putting. At some point the Chinese firm that (probably) manufactures the knot will start to offer them in handles of their own for $30. I may buy one then. Biggrin

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 03-05-2014, 01:23 PM
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(03-05-2014, 01:01 PM)Johnny Wrote: Is that correct, $146.25 for a synthetic brush? If so I will just have to pass and save up a little more for a Chubby 2 in best badger.

These are the LE color versions. The regular in the Simpson cream/ivory will be about $16.70 less based on today's conversion rate. But this whole conversion process is unclear to me. I did some manual calculations based on the current conversion rate, and also used three online currency converters. I calculated that I was going to pay about $142.00, but my card was debited $146.25.

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 03-05-2014, 01:24 PM
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I won't buy one either, Maybe if the non LE version Duke 3 hit the US vendors at a much lesser cost I might get interested in trying one but as it is, there are less expensive options that fit my need for synthetic

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 03-05-2014, 01:30 PM
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  • sm304
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(03-05-2014, 01:06 PM)Teiste Wrote:
(03-05-2014, 01:01 PM)Johnny Wrote: Is that correct, $146.25 for a synthetic brush? If so I will just have to pass and save up a little more for a Chubby 2 in best badger.

I wont buy that brush for that price...Muhle XL 25 mm STF better option and price.

Yep but I want a blue one. Blush but as I live in the UK, mine was $25 more expensive than you non EU guys. Although do you guys get hit with customs charges on arrival?

Scott.

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 03-05-2014, 01:31 PM
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  • BobH
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(03-05-2014, 01:23 PM)TheLegalRazor Wrote:
(03-05-2014, 01:01 PM)Johnny Wrote: Is that correct, $146.25 for a synthetic brush? If so I will just have to pass and save up a little more for a Chubby 2 in best badger.

These are the LE color versions. The regular in the Simpson cream/ivory will be about $16.70 less based on today's conversion rate. But this whole conversion process is unclear to me. I did some manual calculations based on the current conversion rate, and also used three online currency converters. I calculated that I was going to pay about $142.00, but my card was debited $146.25.

The CC companies charge to do the conversion just like banks to here. That might explain the discrepancy.

Bob

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 03-05-2014, 01:32 PM
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(03-05-2014, 01:06 PM)Teiste Wrote:
(03-05-2014, 01:01 PM)Johnny Wrote: Is that correct, $146.25 for a synthetic brush? If so I will just have to pass and save up a little more for a Chubby 2 in best badger.

I wont buy that brush for that price...Muhle XL 25 mm STF better option and price.
I agree that the price is steep. I have a Muhle 25mm STF in a Rudy Vey R7 handle and it's a great brush at substantially less than the Simpson. I have not gotten a Muhle because the loft on all of them is higher than I prefer. One of the things that I like about the Simpson is the lower loft. However, any way you look at it, it is expensive for a synthetic brush.

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 03-05-2014, 01:45 PM
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  • Samjax
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I was part of the group that got to use the Chubby 2 Synthetic. At best, it's a $75 to $100 brush and even then, my Muhle 25mm V2 is a far better brush.

I'm pretty sure we all "want" this brush to be a home run...generally all Simpson Chubbies are. The synthetic however is closer to a base hit and only then, due to the excellent handle, not the knot.

$180 or so will get you a Chubby 2 in Best. It is a FAR better brush in every possible way than the synthetic version. You can get a Duke 3 in Best for under $120; it too, destroys their synthetic.

For $80 or so, you can get the Muhle 25mm V2; once again, a far better brush than the current Chubby 2 synthetic.

I can't help but think that Simpson is simply selling this brush "because they can", not necessarily because it meets their otherwise high brush standards.

I LOVE Simpson badger brushes; however, the Chubby 2 synthetic that I tested/reviewed/compared is a disappointment.

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 03-05-2014, 01:48 PM
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(03-05-2014, 01:30 PM)sm304 Wrote:
(03-05-2014, 01:06 PM)Teiste Wrote:
(03-05-2014, 01:01 PM)Johnny Wrote: Is that correct, $146.25 for a synthetic brush? If so I will just have to pass and save up a little more for a Chubby 2 in best badger.

I wont buy that brush for that price...Muhle XL 25 mm STF better option and price.

Yep but I want a blue one. Blush but as I live in the UK, mine was $25 more expensive than you non EU guys. Although do you guys get hit with customs charges on arrival?

Scott.

I'm curious about this too.
These brushes end up being more expensive in Europe than in the US, which doesn't seem to make a lot of sense, IMHO.

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 03-05-2014, 01:55 PM
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I've purchased from Vintage Scent in Portugal and Simpson and never had to pay any customs charges. I am aware that here we don't pay the VAT, which saves us money after paying for postage.

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 03-05-2014, 01:57 PM
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(03-05-2014, 01:55 PM)TheLegalRazor Wrote: I've purchased from Vintage Scent in Portugal and Simpson and never had to pay any customs charges. I am aware that here we don't pay the VAT, which saves us money after paying for postage.

That's what I suspected. If we do it the other way around (US to Europe), we pretty much always get customs taxes and VAT, specially with higher declared values. Dodgy

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 03-05-2014, 02:00 PM
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(03-05-2014, 01:23 PM)TheLegalRazor Wrote: These are the LE color versions. The regular in the Simpson cream/ivory will be about $16.70 less based on today's conversion rate. But this whole conversion process is unclear to me. I did some manual calculations based on the current conversion rate, and also used three online currency converters. I calculated that I was going to pay about $142.00, but my card was debited $146.25.

I know that Paypal charges extra for currency conversions and your bank/cc company may do the same thing.

What happened to this?

(11-06-2013, 05:47 AM)Simpson1919 Wrote: Just in the final throws of testing gents. Very pleased with how this material shapes up.

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The model pictured, perhaps THE most iconic brush in the world, would retail at approximately £72.00 (inc. VAT), so around £60.00 or $93-94.00ish to our US friends.

That represents rather good value for money when compared with, say, a Muhle synthetic 25mm knot at 64 Euros. The Chubby 2 comes with a 27.5/28mm knot.

Plans at this stage to offer a limited range of brushes - the CH2 for sure, a travel brush with Case obviously and perhaps something in between.

Thanks for tuning in.

Mark

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 03-05-2014, 02:09 PM
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I don't see the traditional Simpson ivory/cream brushes up yet on the website. Perhaps they will be released later, after the LE colors.

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 03-05-2014, 02:09 PM
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(03-05-2014, 01:48 PM)TheMonk Wrote:
(03-05-2014, 01:30 PM)sm304 Wrote:
(03-05-2014, 01:06 PM)Teiste Wrote: I wont buy that brush for that price...Muhle XL 25 mm STF better option and price.

Yep but I want a blue one. Blush but as I live in the UK, mine was $25 more expensive than you non EU guys. Although do you guys get hit with customs charges on arrival?

Scott.

I'm curious about this too.
These brushes end up being more expensive in Europe than in the US, which doesn't seem to make a lot of sense, IMHO.

It's due to VAT which runs about 20% depending which country you are in, in the EU. Brushes exported from the EU are not subject to VAT, but could attract taxes and duties in the importing country. In Ontario, CanadA our HST is 13% and the duty on brushes is about 7%; also, Canada Post charges an $11 handling fee if Revenue Canada levies the taxes and duties. Having said this, it is not a forgone conclusion that Revenue Canada will levy the taxes and fees; it's a bit hit and miss, but if the brush is sent by First Class airmail, it's unlikely that the taxes and duties will be collected.

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