03-14-2014, 10:28 AM
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I'm considering another badger brush as after years of using only boar, I am hooked. One of my recent acquisitions was an M&F Blonde Badger and I have also received a Shavemac D01 2 band in fan.

I'm just curious what a flat top knot feels like on the face. I exclusively face lather. Honestly, I don't notice much difference in face feel with the fan and the bulb so was curious if someone can actually describe what a flat top feels like and why I need one? Ha! Biggrin

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 03-14-2014, 11:06 AM
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  • Rufus
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I have a Shavemac flat top in Silvertip with a 19 mm X 42 mm knot. I face lather exclusively and use creams mostly. Generally, my fan-shaped knots are 22 mm X 50 mm and my bulb-shaped knots are larger, 25 mm X 52 mm. The difference in the size of the 3 styles of knots is due to the fact that they each splays differently, with the flat top the most and the bulb the least. It took me a few shaves to become used to my flat top, as when lathering the edge of the knot, at the top, felt a bit unyielding. Now that I'm used to the different feel and the knot has bloomed I quite like the brush.

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 03-14-2014, 12:43 PM
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  • beartrap
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Flat - feels larger than it is
Bulb - feels like it has more backbone
Fan - feels just right Biggrin

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 03-14-2014, 12:52 PM
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  • Johnny
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(03-14-2014, 12:43 PM)beartrap Wrote: Flat - feels larger than it is
Bulb - feels like it has more backbone
Fan - feels just right Biggrin

I was getting ready to type this very thing.

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 03-14-2014, 02:02 PM
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  • blzrfn
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I am a big fan of fans, but can respect and appreciate a bulb. The flat top just doesn't appeal to me. I'm sure I would enjoy the face feel as it is an extreme version of the fan shape, but aesthetically it looks like somebody took garden shears to an otherwise perfect brush.

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 03-14-2014, 02:16 PM
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  • Rufus
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(03-14-2014, 02:02 PM)blzrfn Wrote: I am a big fan of fans, but can respect and appreciate a bulb. The flat top just doesn't appeal to me. I'm sure I would enjoy the face feel as it is an extreme version of the fan shape, but aesthetically it looks like somebody took garden shears to an otherwise perfect brush.

You're right about the aesthetic appeal, or lack thereof, of a flat top. I hesitated buying one because of this, but bit the bullet anyway because I like diversity in my brush; however, I won't be buying another soon.

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 03-14-2014, 02:19 PM
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  • Johnny
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Who all makes fan shaped brushes? I don't believe I've ever seen a fan shaped Simpsons before.

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 03-14-2014, 02:32 PM
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(03-14-2014, 02:19 PM)Johnny Wrote: Who all makes fan shaped brushes? I don't believe I've ever seen a fan shaped Simpsons before.

I believe shavemac is one of the largest sources of the fan and flat top brushes. Additionally, custom brushes made with fan knots (mostly two-band finest) from The Golden Nib are also popular.

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 03-14-2014, 02:37 PM
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  • Deuce
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  • Cave Creek
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Got my flat top from Vie long. Simply awesome to add to your brush repertoire. First the Vie Long has the absolute most exquisite tis of any brush I've tried. It is shorter than most, because as the others have stated it feels Gi-Normous on the face. I'm glad to have invested in such a great tool

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 03-14-2014, 03:36 PM
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I have a VL silver tip flat loft as well. Mine has enough backbone at 45mm loft that is nice to use. It still feels big, but I have no problem with it. I think I would rather it have just a touch shorter loft though.

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 03-14-2014, 04:06 PM
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  • Elendil
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I'm a fan fan. I have to think that a flat top that isn't dense enough could really be a debacle.

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 03-15-2014, 05:53 AM
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Does it stand to reason that a flat top will be scrithier than a fan and a fan scrithier than a bulb simply because there are more tips in contact with the face at any one time?

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 03-18-2014, 04:07 AM
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  • Rufus
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(03-15-2014, 05:53 AM)fbones24 Wrote: Does it stand to reason that a flat top will be scrithier than a fan and a fan scrithier than a bulb simply because there are more tips in contact with the face at any one time?

This has not been my experience. Where they differ is in the amount of bloom and how large they feel on your face, assuming the size, type and grade of the knot is held constant. A flat top blooms most and feels the largest on your face, followed by a fan with the bulb blooming the least and feeling less large on your face.

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 03-29-2014, 12:40 AM
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I like the bulb shape,most of my brushes are like this
I have 2 flat,i have tested some fun but they did suit me so.

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 03-29-2014, 03:21 AM
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  • BobH
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(03-14-2014, 02:19 PM)Johnny Wrote: Who all makes fan shaped brushes? I don't believe I've ever seen a fan shaped Simpsons before.

Simpsons have made fan shaped knots, my QEII Jubilee is fan shaped. I think they are not common for Simpsons to make though.

Bob

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