03-25-2014, 06:45 AM
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  • Lutebro
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I have a Simpsons brush that is at least 3 to 4 years old. It has been shedding hairs like crazy and I'm curious how long these are designed to last for. After seeing so many in antique shops, even though they don't look good, they seem to be meant to last for a long time. What is other people's Experience with this? This brush has seen regular use, quite high in the rotation.

For reference it is a Simpson Duke 2 in best.

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 03-25-2014, 06:52 AM
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(03-25-2014, 06:45 AM)Lutebro Wrote: I have a Simpsons brush that is at least 3 to 4 years old. It has been shedding hairs like crazy and I'm curious how long these are designed to last for. After seeing so many in antique shops, even though they don't look good, they seem to be meant to last for a long time. What is other people's Experience with this? This brush has seen regular use, quite high in the rotation.

For reference it is a Simpson Duke 2 in best.

Shouldn't be shedding IMO. They are definitely built to last, particularly Simpson.

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 03-25-2014, 07:07 AM
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They can last for decades. But they might start shedding 2 years out. It all depends.

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 03-25-2014, 07:29 AM
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I've heard of a guy using the same brush for 20 years. I guess it all depends on the brush itself.

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 03-25-2014, 07:35 AM
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Yes, one of the fellows on another forum has been using Plisson plexis for the last 30 years or so. The first he started on in the early '80s; he then found a second similar version with the old "good" HMW hair, retired the first brush just after the turn of this century, and has been using the second ever since. Face lathers every day. Incredible.

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 03-25-2014, 07:37 AM
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It depends on the use , or abuse, too.

If the user is a brush masher that will cut the life expectancy by quite a bit. You can go to youtube and see lots of examples of brush mashing. The folks using the brush that way haven't a clue that they're doing anything wrong either.

Use just the end third of the fibers of the brush, or less. If the base of the knot is being used for lather making, that's a clear case of brush mashing. If someone needs more face feel they need a brush with more backbone.

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 03-25-2014, 07:41 AM
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What Brian said plus, I never soak a brush past half way up the hair. I've seen guys just dump their brush in a sink full of water and let it soak. If you keep soaking the knot, eventually it will let go.

I've sold brushes that were 10-15 years old and people are still using them.

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 03-25-2014, 08:26 AM
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Thanks everyone for all the great information! I got this brush from somebody else off of a different forum and I have no idea how they used it. I'm still somewhat of a newb so maybe I have mashed it a couple times two. Is there any way to help save it or just be better about it from now on?

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 03-25-2014, 08:59 AM
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Be better about it from now on. This may help save it. I know a lot of people will disagree with me on this including the brush manufacture, but I have been doing this for 50+ years and I have NEVER had a shedder.

There are some that let their wet/damp brush set on the handle with the hair facing up to dry. I've heard all the theories on how the water evaporates into the atmosphere and all that, and that's fine. But while that water in the tips is evaporating, the water down towards the knot is not. It takes longer for it to completely evaporate.

I hang my brushes, hair down. Here is my theory, my Dad's theory, and my Granddads theory and I'm sticking to it.

When you hang the brush, the water still evaporates from the tips into the atmosphere. And while it is evaporating, gravity is pulling the water out of the knot. WIN-WIN for the brush.

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 03-25-2014, 09:52 AM
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As Johnny said, it comes down to:

1) How often you use it (a brush's longevity should be recorded in uses, not time)
2) How you use it (abuse reduces the number of shaves)
3) Random glue failure (usually occurs within the first three months).

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 03-25-2014, 10:35 AM
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  • v4257
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I have 2 data points.

I've been a boar brush user for ~20 yrs. Even the cheapest (25cents!) boar brushes I've used have lasted ~500 shaves or ~2 yrs. Since they were so cheap - I would just replace them after that - even though they were still functional (they did lose 20% of orig bristles in that time) . They certainly didn't start "shedding like crazy" at any point. Bristle loss should be gradual unless something goes very wrong. In fact I don't remember ever throwing a brush away - I wonder all those brushes went....Huh

I also read a quote from Joe from IB on Omega boars - he said: "Estimates I've received from Master Barbers range from 3000-5000 shaves."

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 03-25-2014, 02:20 PM
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My dad still has his older boar brush that is still functional with a plastic handle since 1964, or so, but it really shows its age. I would assume as the others have mentioned, if you take care of your brush, it should provide many great years of service.

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 03-25-2014, 02:23 PM
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  • Lutebro
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I put some conditioner to it this morning and brushed it out hoping to get rid of all the crap hairs. I'm trying to get it to the point where it stops shedding even if it loses a bunch of hairs.

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 03-25-2014, 02:35 PM
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Own enough brushes and they will all last a lifetime. 24

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 03-25-2014, 07:18 PM
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LB, I doubt mashing a brush once or twice will do anything to most brushes but there might be that one brush where something else was also going on and mashing lit the fuse. IMO it's a steady diet of mashing that will do the most damage.

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 03-25-2014, 09:25 PM
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(03-25-2014, 02:35 PM)wingdo Wrote: Own enough brushes and they will all last a lifetime. 24

+1 Biggrin

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