05-04-2014, 02:59 PM
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The last few times that I've used either the '11 or '13 R41s I just can't get them to work for me as I wish. I have no idea why, so I'm dropping back and punting. I'm going back to my Gillette Single rings ('20 and earlier) with 1 shim and they are working fine.

I'm certain the incompatibility with the R41s is all my fault but I can't seem to figure out what I'm doing wrong.

But that's why I hold onto razors that seem to no longer work or those that fall out of favor. If one has them one can revisit them. Now I'm revisiting the Single Rings, in time I'll revisit the R41s. I'd really like to start to click with them once again... In time, in time. That's exactly why I suggest to folks that unless they really need the $, not to part with razors that once worked and now don't. I came soooo close to selling off my Gillettes. I'm glad I didn't. I think I'll just hold onto all of them.

I might even use what I consider my far less aggressive Gillette's to further ingrain the required angle. I feel that's what I'm doing wrong, so dropping back might be the solution. I'm going to hate the shave if I do that however.

Too, I have my SE razors and I always seem to get along with those.

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 05-04-2014, 03:36 PM
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I feel your pain Brian literally. R41s love or hate? Try a heavier handle but with a light touch. Do your normal shave and don't think about what razor your using.

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 05-04-2014, 06:20 PM
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I say it's because SWMBO was gone from you for too long and you have gone weak. She needs to whip you back into shape. Tongue

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 05-04-2014, 08:36 PM
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Yeah, maybe that's it Brian!

Jerry, I already have a SS UFO handle on it. But definitely a light touch is required.

The last shave I got out of it wasn't too bad, but not what I expect from those razors. I'll come back to them.

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 05-05-2014, 10:46 AM
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FWIW, I had the same problem about a year into my R41 2011 career. No matter what I did, or how I attempted to make adjustments, the problem persisted.

Someone suggested that I not worry about it and to keep on using it. Then, about two weeks later, the problem went away. I never found out why it happened, but I don't think my attempts to try different adjustments helped. In the end, I chalked it up as a "muscle memory" glitch. Don't worry, it'll go away.

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 05-05-2014, 07:27 PM
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Thanks Jim. That's along the lines of what I'm thinking too. Right now I'm concentrating on my Single Ring, to the exclusion of my SE razors also. I really want to get the R41 back in the groove. (does that saying date me?)

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 05-05-2014, 08:07 PM
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Maybe, I should get another one to try for the 4th time! Biggrin

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 05-05-2014, 11:48 PM
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celestino - you crack me up!!! Pancarta

What is your current dangerous razor???

We need an R41 lending library!

Brian - the muscle memory glitch makes sense to me. I hope the glitch passes quickly.

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 05-09-2014, 07:26 PM
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(05-05-2014, 08:07 PM)celestino Wrote: Maybe, I should get another one to try for the 4th time! Biggrin

I kept mine and use it one special occasions rather than using the revolving purchase approach, however, your method does save space in the den!

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 05-20-2014, 01:48 PM
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I think I figured out what I've been doing. Stopping it is another matter entirely.

I've gotten complacent.

I've been treating it cavalierly. Not taking my time was/is the problem.

I've been using the Gillette Single Ring for the past 2 (?)weeks and had no problem. Today I used the '13 R41 and found myself doing great when I kept myself throttled back. The one time I treated it with no respect I got weepers.

Now I need to treat it with respect, and slow down with it. Technique, pure technique, and mindset. Maybe I need to keep it in reserve for those days when I'm not so rushed. Anyway, I know the solution, it's up to me to implement it in some way.

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 05-30-2014, 07:46 AM
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For me, the razor requires constant focus.

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 06-14-2014, 12:11 PM
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Precisely what my problem was Bilkay!

I left the razor alone for a time so that I could appreciate precisely how aggressive it is; I had lost respect for it. Today was it's first use in quite some time and it gave me a great shave. I started to lose track of how aggressive the razor is and sure enough, it started to give me very minor weepers. Just a reminder to slow down with it and keep my mind on the business at hand. But I was busy and shaving between breaks in the action. Not the best way to use the '11. Disrespect it and it definitely lets one know about it.

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 02-05-2015, 10:36 PM
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Dusting this old thread off.

I've left the '11 R41 alone for quite some time now, since the last post actually, and returned to it today with a fresh Med Prep blade in it. I treated it with the respect it requires and I'm back in the groove with the razor. Todays shave was fantastic and bloodless.

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 02-06-2015, 06:34 AM
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The muhle R41 is the only razor that I have been able to achieve bbs without irritation especially on my neck. The shaves last forever.  The only caveat is I don't like the factory handles and I use homemade ones or some I pickup at elite razors. The short handle makes a big difference when shaving with the R41

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 02-06-2015, 06:42 AM
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One of the first things I did with every R41 I have is to replace the handles. Yes, IMO it makes all the difference to get rid of the long smooth handle.

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 02-06-2015, 06:45 AM
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When I shave with my R41 ('13) I can get a really great shave. My repeated mantra during the shave is "gentle". I also never try for a BBS and I am particularly cautious and selective which part of my face I shave ATG. I agree about the factory handle. It must be replaced. I swapped mine out with a Weber Bulldog.

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 02-06-2015, 07:55 AM
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I bought an R41 and sold it a few weeks later. I tried all my favorite blades in it, but just didn't like it at all. I got a very smooth shave from it, just a very rough feeling shave. It personally just wasn't for me.

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 02-06-2015, 08:41 AM
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I have the 2013 version and love it. I personally dont get any irritation from it even when using it daily. I have hower had to tweek the angle a bit when using it. Im not sure if this is normal occurance though.

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 02-06-2015, 08:45 AM
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(02-06-2015, 08:41 AM)captain caveman Wrote: I have the 2013 version and love it. I personally dont get any irritation from it even when using it daily. I have hower had to tweek the angle a bit when using it. Im not sure if this is normal occurance though.

I use mine everyday with no irritation and I also had to play with the angle but if I make the razor handle closer to perpendicular to my face I get a good shave. The only problem I have is going against the grain on my mustache I have to be careful in that area

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 02-06-2015, 08:46 AM
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(02-06-2015, 06:42 AM)ShadowsDad Wrote: One of the first things I did with every R41 I have is to replace the handles. Yes, IMO it makes all the difference to get rid of the long smooth handle.

Indeed. The stock handle is NOT a good thing. I use a Bulldog-style handle and it makes a huge difference.

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