05-07-2014, 07:44 PM
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  • Shaun
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These are a few soaps I bought in haul recently. I have never used Floris or Yardley. There's not a LOT of scent in either really, and I don't really know what they are like. I have that many soaps...but I live in Sydney and so if I were to think about moving them the cost for shipping would be very prohibitive, I'd imagine.

I also don't know how old the Floris soaps are, nor do I know what the ingredients are [Update, see posts that follow]. There is no cellophane wrapper, but each of the soaps is unused; the Yardley I figure dates from around around 1962 judging by some of the promotional materials I have looked at.

Comments would be welcome. I'd be interested in an opinion, even if the Floris scents are only faint in these three 100g boxes: N0. 89; Rose and Geranium; and Elite.

In a following thread, I will show two other quite marvellous looking soap items.

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 05-07-2014, 07:59 PM
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These soaps should perform really well, even though they lack scent. A lot of the vintage soaps work really well.

I also don't think you will have any difficulty moving them. These are hard to find. I'd be happy to buy the floris ones Biggrin

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 05-07-2014, 08:40 PM
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  • blzrfn
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Could you snap a picture of the top of the Floris soaps as well? I have one with the script logo on top and want to see if yours match. Nice pickup, both my vintage Yardley and Floris are top performers and are worth keeping around if you can't get fair value in trade or sale.

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 05-07-2014, 08:59 PM
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The tops of the soaps, as you can see, have paper over them. I tried to peel one back a little to have a look, but they don't reveal much. The top of the soap is 'wrinkly' due to age, but they are the genuine article. If there was an imprint on the soap once, it's been 'wrinkled' away.

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 05-07-2014, 10:06 PM
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  • blzrfn
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Thanks for the reply Shaun

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 05-08-2014, 02:43 AM
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Only have one Yardley vintage soap bought unused. The scent is very mild, expect it disappeared with age, but the lather it produces is very nice.

Bob

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 05-08-2014, 05:08 AM
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Those soaps will be excellent. I've used the Yardley (and have 3 stockpiled), and it is the standard against which all soaps could be judged. One question on the Floris 89, though. I've read elsewhere that 89 may have only ever been produced as a tallow-free soap. Is there an ingredients list anywhere on/in the box?

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 05-08-2014, 11:53 PM
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Great find, Shaun!

I have several Floris No. 89 refill pucks with the same packaging, still wrapped in cellophane.

The ingredient list is as follows:

Contents
Soap Base, Purified Water,
Sodium Chloride, Glycerine,
Coconut Oil, Perfume

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 05-09-2014, 12:26 AM
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(05-08-2014, 11:53 PM)SurfFisherman Wrote: Great find, Shaun!

I have several Floris No. 89 refill pucks with the same packaging, still wrapped in cellophane.

The ingredient list is as follows:

Contents
Soap Base, Purified Water,
Sodium Chloride, Glycerine,
Coconut Oil, Perfume

Hi. As I understand it, there were a few versions of this soap. My nose detects tallow in the above and the lather produced certainly indicates this. I know some folk say there is no difference, but I think there is. The other thing concerns the origin of the pucks. The guy I purchased them from was quite an old man and he said he'd had them for years. And I do mean years. Nothing I bought from him was less than 25 years old, for example. I know the Yardley is dated from around 1962; The Floris isn't as old, but I do know that Floris changed from tallow in 2001. These pucks are much older than that.

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 05-09-2014, 07:24 AM
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soap base would almost certainly be tallow.

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 05-09-2014, 12:42 PM
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(05-09-2014, 07:24 AM)Elendil Wrote: soap base would almost certainly be tallow.

I believe that is an educated, correct statement… or maybe "certainly contains tallow"… but either way, same deal… and I'm not a soapmaker Biggrin

Do you have any idea how old the formulation is?

(05-08-2014, 11:53 PM)SurfFisherman Wrote: Great find, Shaun!

I have several Floris No. 89 refill pucks with the same packaging, still wrapped in cellophane.

The ingredient list is as follows:

Contents
Soap Base, Purified Water,
Sodium Chloride, Glycerine,
Coconut Oil, Perfume

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 05-09-2014, 04:13 PM
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(05-09-2014, 12:42 PM)Nero Wrote:
(05-09-2014, 07:24 AM)Elendil Wrote: soap base would almost certainly be tallow.

I believe that is an educated, correct statement… or maybe "certainly contains tallow"… but either way, same deal… and I'm not a soapmaker Biggrin

Do you have any idea how old the formulation is?

I only concluded tallow because Trumper soaps used to contain "toilet soap base" when they were still the tallow formula. As for age, if the Floris and Yardley soaps came from the same batch, I would date them to the late 1970s or early 1980s, since that is a later logo design for the Yardley.

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 05-09-2014, 11:59 PM
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(05-09-2014, 04:13 PM)Elendil Wrote:
(05-09-2014, 12:42 PM)Nero Wrote:
(05-09-2014, 07:24 AM)Elendil Wrote: soap base would almost certainly be tallow.

I believe that is an educated, correct statement… or maybe "certainly contains tallow"… but either way, same deal… and I'm not a soapmaker Biggrin

Do you have any idea how old the formulation is?

I only concluded tallow because Trumper soaps used to contain "toilet soap base" when they were still the tallow formula. As for age, if the Floris and Yardley soaps came from the same batch, I would date them to the late 1970s or early 1980s, since that is a later logo design for the Yardley.

It's a 1962 logo design on the Yardley. Not 70s. Easy to research. Plenty of examples and images.

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 05-10-2014, 06:40 AM
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(05-09-2014, 11:59 PM)Shaun Wrote:
(05-09-2014, 04:13 PM)Elendil Wrote:
(05-09-2014, 12:42 PM)Nero Wrote: I believe that is an educated, correct statement… or maybe "certainly contains tallow"… but either way, same deal… and I'm not a soapmaker Biggrin

Do you have any idea how old the formulation is?

I only concluded tallow because Trumper soaps used to contain "toilet soap base" when they were still the tallow formula. As for age, if the Floris and Yardley soaps came from the same batch, I would date them to the late 1970s or early 1980s, since that is a later logo design for the Yardley.

It's a 1962 logo design on the Yardley. Not 70s. Easy to research. Plenty of examples and images.

Fair enough. Enjoy.

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 05-10-2014, 08:10 AM
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  • grantmm
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Is there a link that shows the different year designs? I've searched various word combos and nothing yet.

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 05-10-2014, 03:01 PM
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If you simply search on Google, say, for Yardley shaving advertising, the distinctive Y design comes up frequently on soap, splash, foam, etc, all from that period and even a little earlier, such as 1959. It's hard to miss.

(05-10-2014, 06:40 AM)Elendil Wrote:
(05-09-2014, 11:59 PM)Shaun Wrote:
(05-09-2014, 04:13 PM)Elendil Wrote: I only concluded tallow because Trumper soaps used to contain "toilet soap base" when they were still the tallow formula. As for age, if the Floris and Yardley soaps came from the same batch, I would date them to the late 1970s or early 1980s, since that is a later logo design for the Yardley.

It's a 1962 logo design on the Yardley. Not 70s. Easy to research. Plenty of examples and images.

Fair enough. Enjoy.

..although, you might be right, too, Bob, well spotted. Hmm. 'Yardley Original' may indeed have been a re-issue. I can't be absolutely sure, and was going on what I could see and there's scant material around. I have, however, now seen an ad from a French magazine for 1981 that shows an assortment of "Yardley Original" products, including the 80ml bowl and puck. Fascinating. Either way, tallow for sure. I can't post the link because it's a live listing on eBay as "Publicite Advertising" "1981 Yardley". I trust that's not breaking any rules?

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 10-18-2014, 12:26 AM
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Yardley does indeed have a special place in the shave soap hall of fame. It should lather very well despite a disappearing scent!

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 10-18-2014, 12:47 AM
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I got a yardley soap recently although I haven't shaved with it. It's got quite a strong lavender scent.

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