05-25-2014, 09:46 AM
Just used my 3824 today and I love it. Super soft with just the right amount of backbone. It's the best brush I own. So if you're looking for a new brush give them a look. I'm gonna buy one of the 33 series as well. These brushes do not get the publicity they deserve.
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05-25-2014, 10:51 AM
Savile Row has gotten buried under the avalanche of Thater reviews, but the brand more than holds its own. There's a sense of refinement to the Thater that the Saviles can't match, but face feel is not that far removed, quality is equivalent (I've never had an SR that shed, for example), and to me the SR handles are more comfortable to hold.
I've used the 3122 for some time, and with all the brushes that have passed through here over the last few month/years, I'd be in a lot better shape emotionally and financially if I'd stood pat with it.
The usual comparison is to Shavemac since there are many similarities, but I hold that the Savile Row is to Shavemac what Thater is to Savile Row. There are enough subtle differences to . . . make a difference.
Good brushes, good warranty.
I've used the 3122 for some time, and with all the brushes that have passed through here over the last few month/years, I'd be in a lot better shape emotionally and financially if I'd stood pat with it.
The usual comparison is to Shavemac since there are many similarities, but I hold that the Savile Row is to Shavemac what Thater is to Savile Row. There are enough subtle differences to . . . make a difference.
Good brushes, good warranty.

05-25-2014, 03:08 PM
(05-25-2014, 03:03 PM)sandan Wrote:(05-25-2014, 12:43 PM)bullgoose Wrote: Aren't these rebranded shave macs?
I have both the 3824 and the Shavemac 177 silvertip. They sure don't function anywhere near the same. Shavemac has a good backbone and ultra soft tips. The SR is floppier and the tips are still prickly after two years of use.
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05-25-2014, 04:19 PM
(05-25-2014, 12:43 PM)bullgoose Wrote: Aren't these rebranded shave macs?
I don't think it matters if they are. I have three and all are extremely well-built, with dense knots and soft tips (for the silvertips). None has dropped a hair. Besides, if the source defines the brush, M&F could simply be considered rebranded Rooneys.

05-26-2014, 06:03 AM
From what I've read, Shavemac makes the handles for Thater brushes. I've also read that Shavemac makes the brushes for Savile Row.
I've had a Savile Row 3324 for almost three years. I also have four Shavemac's (one silvertip and three D01 silvertip). Comparing the SR to the Shavemac knots. . .they are nowhere near the same - coloration of the badger, backbone, and feel. The tips of the SR are very white and I would place the backbone somewhere between the Shavemac silvertip and D01. The facial feel of the SR is cloud-like (for the lack of a better phrase).
The SR 33 and Shavemac 167 handles are the same style. Mine are extremely well made.
If Shavemac actually makes SR brushes. . .my hat is off to them. The one I have is absolutely awesome.
I've had a Savile Row 3324 for almost three years. I also have four Shavemac's (one silvertip and three D01 silvertip). Comparing the SR to the Shavemac knots. . .they are nowhere near the same - coloration of the badger, backbone, and feel. The tips of the SR are very white and I would place the backbone somewhere between the Shavemac silvertip and D01. The facial feel of the SR is cloud-like (for the lack of a better phrase).
The SR 33 and Shavemac 167 handles are the same style. Mine are extremely well made.
If Shavemac actually makes SR brushes. . .my hat is off to them. The one I have is absolutely awesome.
05-26-2014, 06:30 AM
I like the last two posts. Very iconoclastic. 
Credit to Charles at QED for NOT merely rebranding his Savile Row's, which would have been the easy and cheap thing to do. I suspect his batches of silvertip are specially graded and sorted, processed and shaped to a different standard. It looks similar to Shavemac silvertip -- and so what? It's a good basis to start with -- but it's (k)not.

Credit to Charles at QED for NOT merely rebranding his Savile Row's, which would have been the easy and cheap thing to do. I suspect his batches of silvertip are specially graded and sorted, processed and shaped to a different standard. It looks similar to Shavemac silvertip -- and so what? It's a good basis to start with -- but it's (k)not.
05-26-2014, 07:36 AM
(05-26-2014, 06:30 AM)rsp1202 Wrote: I like the last two posts. Very iconoclastic.
Credit to Charles at QED for NOT merely rebranding his Savile Row's, which would have been the easy and cheap thing to do. I suspect his batches of silvertip are specially graded and sorted, processed and shaped to a different standard. It looks similar to Shavemac silvertip -- and so what? It's a good basis to start with -- but it's (k)not.
Not to contribute to the rumor mill, but I've read/heard somewhere that the SR knots are composed mostly of Shavemac silvertip with a little D01 thrown in there for backbone. I have absolutely no basis for that whatsoever, but I can see it

05-26-2014, 08:21 AM
(05-26-2014, 08:14 AM)greyhawk Wrote: I used to have a 3824 and it was a great brush. I had to pare down my brushes and it was difficult to let it go…
It was not so similar to ShaveMacs I've used that I would think it was rebranded. My guess is that those are rumors, or possibly they are built to Charles' specs.
Yes, I should have said made by Shavemac rather than re-branded Shavemacs. If they are made by Shavemac, they are clearly made to Charles' specs.
05-26-2014, 08:33 AM
(05-26-2014, 07:36 AM)Giorgio Wrote: Not to contribute to the rumor mill, but I've read/heard somewhere that the SR knots are composed mostly of Shavemac silvertip with a little D01 thrown in there for backbone. I have absolutely no basis for that whatsoever, but I can see it
It could be. I also think the bulb is cut differently, which adds stiffness. Wish there was a "shrug's shoulders" smiley.
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