05-14-2012, 05:29 PM
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My favourite brush is an 80's Plisson HMW 14. It is a spectacular performer, though the handle has dried a bit.

This thread is about another vintage Plisson. This is also an 80's era brush, but it is most definitely not a High Mountain White brush. Just what it is is something I keep wondering about.

Here are some pics of the brush:

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As you can see, the sticker is an 80's style sticker. The handle is resin, I think - but it is unlike any resin I've ever held. Whatever it is, it is really lovely (in person), and it feels really nice in the hand (the texture and the shape).

The knot is peaked - so I thought I wasn't going to like it. It also looks coarse. I'm pretty sure it's a 'Pure Badger' equivalent that Plisson churned out. Some of the hairs look clipped, and while the peripheral hairs are aligned well and unclipped, the inner hairs are certainly shaped. So, I thought - low grade, and I probably won't like it.

Here it is compared to the HMW:

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You can immediately see the difference in the hairs used. One looks like a top-grade brush would, and the other looks like a low-grade brush.

However, in use the low-grade Plisson performs better than most really expensive 'big-name' brushes. It doesn't match the HMW, but it is so much better than most brushes, that I still remain perplexed as to what it really is.

I've had this for months now, and every time I use it I am amazed at how well it performs.

Today I used it with some MWF:

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After soaking the brush in my scuttle, I shook it dry, ready for the loading:

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I generally don't like hairs that clump like this when they're damp. However, this brush belied those expectations.

Loaded brush:

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Built up lather, loads of it:

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And here's the leftover after a 3 pass shave and touch-ups:

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As you can see, this brush is no slouch in the lathering department. It really feels great on the face too - it has a just a tinge of scritch, but nice backbone and scrub. It feels like brushes at the top of the line for most makers.

In some ways, this reminds me of the Semogue Caravela.....only better (and smaller).

Again, this is a perplexing brush.....by all visual standards, I should hate this brush (as I usually hate brushes with knots that look like this), but I actually love it!

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 05-14-2012, 05:47 PM
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Very interesting Yohann. I'll watch this thread to see what knowledge may be gleaned.

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 05-14-2012, 07:19 PM
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  • Teiste
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Did you write ?
Quote:....like a Semogue Caravela,but only better and smaller...
?

Man,that brush must be brilliant then!

I really like Plisson handles and I wonder too what kind of badger hair is that.

Thanks for introducing us this little fellow : seems like an excellent performer.

PS : I would like to read about your other 80's Plisson brush.

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 05-14-2012, 08:40 PM
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Beautiful brush, Yohann. Great colour on the handle!

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 05-14-2012, 09:19 PM
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I really enjoyed your wonderful review Yohann.

I opened the thread expecting to see a Plexi - this was better!

The handle has a beautiful depth and range of colour to it - looks a lot like tortoise shell!

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 05-14-2012, 10:34 PM
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Great review of a very curious brush. Smile Enjoy it at good health!

(05-14-2012, 09:19 PM)ben74 Wrote: ...
I opened the thread expecting to see a Plexi
- this was better!
...

Me too! Laughing1

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 05-15-2012, 07:00 AM
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Ah, more brush porn. My wants and needs are starting to cross each other. I want it, I need it. I guess this is why we call it a disorder.

Very nice brush Yohann.

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 05-15-2012, 07:22 AM
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Here's a pic of the strange Plisson knot next to the HMW. I was going to add it to the OP, but I couldn't (image limit).

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You can see the difference in consistency of the hair used.

EDIT: I was able to add this in the OP, in the correct place. Thanks to Andrew the admin!!

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 05-15-2012, 07:28 AM
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(05-15-2012, 07:22 AM)yohannrjm Wrote: Here's a pic of the strange Plisson knot next to the HMW. I was going to add it to the OP, but I couldn't (image limit).

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You can see the difference in consistency of the hair used.

And the individual hairs appear thicker too. Is that the case, or are my eyes playing tricks on me?

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 05-15-2012, 08:13 AM
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(05-15-2012, 07:28 AM)ben74 Wrote: And the individual hairs appear thicker too. Is that the case, or are my eyes playing tricks on me?

To be honest, I haven't paid close attention to the thickness of the hairs at the base of these knots. However, the tips of the HMW are certainly finer than the average tips of the one on the left. As I said, there's a bunch of different hair types in the unknown brush.

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 05-15-2012, 08:16 AM
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To take it just a little off topic, where did you get that scuttle? That looks familiar. Was it from Straight Razor Designs?

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 05-15-2012, 08:45 AM
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(05-15-2012, 08:16 AM)Johnny Wrote: To take it just a little off topic, where did you get that scuttle? That looks familiar. Was it from Straight Razor Designs?

Yep, that's the SRD scuttle. It's pretty good. I had a Becker that kept the lather warmer, but it was too large for my counter. This is the right size for me, and it does a nice job of keeping the lather warm. The reservoir is quite large. I do wish it was a bit shorter, though.

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 05-15-2012, 09:01 AM
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I almost bought one of those last year. But since I now have a DB 1.5, Schwarzweisskeramik, and a Moss on the way, I probably don't need anymore scuttles.Smile

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 05-15-2012, 09:33 AM
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(05-15-2012, 09:01 AM)Johnny Wrote: But since I now have a DB 1.5, Schwarzweisskeramik, and a Moss on the way, I probably don't need anymore scuttles.Smile

Ha! Can I quote this back to you in the future?
Regarding the Plisson, I've seen several vintage Plissons listed on eBay that appeared, from their images, to have the same kind of strange mixture of different hair types.

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 05-15-2012, 09:36 AM
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(05-15-2012, 09:33 AM)churchilllafemme Wrote:
(05-15-2012, 09:01 AM)Johnny Wrote: But since I now have a DB 1.5, Schwarzweisskeramik, and a Moss on the way, I probably don't need anymore scuttles.Smile

Ha! Can I quote this back to you in the future?

Yes you can. I promise, I will be a good little boy. I promise.Tongue

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 05-15-2012, 05:18 PM
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I must agree, that is a very nice scuttle!

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