06-17-2014, 05:44 PM
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Tonight I used my Plisson brush for the first. My favorite brush so far has been the Muhle STF V2 in a 23mm knot. I was very curious how they would compare. Many gents have said the Plisson is a different experience. Well it was different but I can't say for sure if I like it.
I wet the brush and started loading my MWF soap on it. Right off I noticed that the soap was kind of sticking to the brush in clumps. Then when I took it to the lather bowl and when I press it down into the bowl it does not splay evenly. One section always folded in. I had to work at it to splay evenly.
The lather was okay. I am going to try it with either Arko or VDH the next shave. I'll see what happens. It may just be that I have to adjust my technique.
So far the Muhle is still the best for me.

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 06-17-2014, 06:37 PM
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Don't leave much, if any, water in the brush.

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 06-17-2014, 08:12 PM
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I haven't bowl-lathered in almost three years, but with face-lathering, I found the Plisson works much better than any other synthetic brush I have used, so far. It doesn't seem to exhibit the standard 'springiness' of all other synthetics and it splays very nicely.

I guess modifying your technique for bowl-lathering seems like a good experiment to see if you can get it to work for you.

Personally, I would have to say that the Plisson synthetic would work much better for face-lathering then bowl-lathering, but YMMV.
Best of luck to you.

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 06-18-2014, 05:31 AM
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I forgot to say that my Plisson is a synthetic. I'm glad you all assumed it.

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 06-18-2014, 09:36 AM
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I did a test lather using an Arko puck and it seemed a little better. I guess I may have to get use to this brush. Adjust my technique. I think I will like it after a few more shaves.

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 06-18-2014, 02:04 PM
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(06-17-2014, 05:44 PM)shave/brush Wrote: Tonight I used my Plisson brush for the first. My favorite brush so far has been the Muhle STF V2 in a 23mm knot. I was very curious how they would compare. Many gents have said the Plisson is a different experience. Well it was different but I can't say for sure if I like it.

So far the Muhle is still the best for me.

Thank you; you may have saved me some money. Bow In March, I purchased functionally the same Mühle brush that you have (perhaps exactly the same: mine is the 33K252 with the faux horn handle), and it was my first new brush since I purchased a Vulfix 2234S Super Badger brush about a dozen years ago. Although I still use the Vulfix from time to time, I use the Mühle much more since it entered the house; I think that it simply is an improvement over the Vulfix.

But then Teiste started waxing poetic about the L'Occitain Plisson, and I wondered whether I had chosen the wrong brush as my first synthetic. Not enough to rush down to the mall to grab the Plisson, but enough to make me ponder "what if ..."

Now I can redirect those thoughts to what price point Joe will have to sell the full production run Stealth Slant to get me to buy a second DE razor that I really do not need. Rolleyes

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 06-18-2014, 03:43 PM
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(06-18-2014, 02:04 PM)Mel S Meles Wrote:
(06-17-2014, 05:44 PM)shave/brush Wrote: Tonight I used my Plisson brush for the first. My favorite brush so far has been the Muhle STF V2 in a 23mm knot. I was very curious how they would compare. Many gents have said the Plisson is a different experience. Well it was different but I can't say for sure if I like it.
So far the Muhle is still the best for me.

Thank you; you may have saved me some money. Bow In March, I purchased functionally the same Mühle brush that you have (perhaps exactly the same: mine is the 33K252 with the faux horn handle), and it was my first new brush since I purchased a Vulfix 2234S Super Badger brush about a dozen years ago. Although I still use the Vulfix from time to time, I use the Mühle much more since it entered the house; I think that it simply is an improvement over the Vulfix.

But then Teiste started waxing poetic about the L'Occitain Plisson, and I wondered whether I had chosen the wrong brush as my first synthetic. Not enough to rush down to the mall to grab the Plisson, but enough to make me ponder "what if ..."

Now I can redirect those thoughts to what price point Joe will have to sell the full production run Stealth Slant to get me to buy a second DE razor that I really do not need. Rolleyes

That is part of the fun with this hobby. I knew I didn't need another brush but after hearing so much positive talk about the Plisson I just had to try it. I won't say I regret it but I certainly could have lived without it.

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 06-18-2014, 04:34 PM
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Well, I ended up selling virtually all of the sizes I had in the Muhle V2 brushes. Even though I really, really liked them! I only have a 25mm V2 left that is staring at me forlornly.

I like the Plisson that much... FYI, I use it for bowl lathering.

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 06-18-2014, 07:29 PM
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Attila, glad that you reminded me that the Plisson is very adequate for bowl-lathering! Biggrin

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 06-18-2014, 07:52 PM
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(06-18-2014, 07:29 PM)celestino Wrote: Attila, glad that you reminded me that the Plisson is very adequate for bowl-lathering! Biggrin


More than adequate actually. Even when I try to (clumsily) face lather it works great. It's fool proof to create lather with it. Thanks again for your generosity in letting me try yours my friend!

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 06-18-2014, 08:22 PM
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It was my pleasure, Attila! I am glad you like the brush! Biggrin

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 06-19-2014, 07:13 AM
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I've never had any luck with face lathering. Maybe I should give it another try with the Plisson.

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 06-19-2014, 07:47 AM
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(06-19-2014, 07:13 AM)shave/brush Wrote: I've never had any luck with face lathering. Maybe I should give it another try with the Plisson.

* Excellent! Just make sure you rub the puck on your face, really well to help get enough soap on there. This might remedy the issue you had with face-lathering, originally!
Good luck. Biggrin

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 06-19-2014, 10:33 AM
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I got my Plisson today. I must say I like it. It builds lather like crazy. But, it will not replace my Muhle/Jagger V2 Synthetics. It will just fall in to the rotation.

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 06-19-2014, 10:35 AM
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(06-19-2014, 10:33 AM)Johnny Wrote: I got my Plisson today. I must say I like it. It builds lather like crazy. But, it will not replace my Muhle/Jagger V2 Synthetics. It will just fall in to the rotation.

Hah! That's exactly what I first said too! Might work for you though Johnny.

Lord knows I have plenty of other brushes in my rotation as well, so I wouldn't blame you!

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 06-19-2014, 11:15 AM
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(06-19-2014, 10:35 AM)Attila Wrote:
(06-19-2014, 10:33 AM)Johnny Wrote: I got my Plisson today. I must say I like it. It builds lather like crazy. But, it will not replace my Muhle/Jagger V2 Synthetics. It will just fall in to the rotation.

Hah! That's exactly what I first said too! Might work for you though Johnny.

Lord knows I have plenty of other brushes in my rotation as well, so I wouldn't blame you!

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Blame me for what? I like the brush and will use it on a regular basis.

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 06-19-2014, 11:19 AM
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(06-19-2014, 11:15 AM)Johnny Wrote:
(06-19-2014, 10:35 AM)Attila Wrote:
(06-19-2014, 10:33 AM)Johnny Wrote: I got my Plisson today. I must say I like it. It builds lather like crazy. But, it will not replace my Muhle/Jagger V2 Synthetics. It will just fall in to the rotation.

Hah! That's exactly what I first said too! Might work for you though Johnny.

Lord knows I have plenty of other brushes in my rotation as well, so I wouldn't blame you!

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Blame me for what? I like the brush and will use it on a regular basis.

Just a figure of speech sir! No blame. It would have been better expressed as "I can completely understand your reasoning."

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 06-19-2014, 12:01 PM
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(06-19-2014, 11:19 AM)Attila Wrote:
(06-19-2014, 11:15 AM)Johnny Wrote:
(06-19-2014, 10:35 AM)Attila Wrote: Hah! That's exactly what I first said too! Might work for you though Johnny.

Lord knows I have plenty of other brushes in my rotation as well, so I wouldn't blame you!

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Blame me for what? I like the brush and will use it on a regular basis.

Just a figure of speech sir! No blame. It would have been better expressed as "I can completely understand your reasoning."

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There you go. Wink

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 06-19-2014, 12:13 PM
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(06-19-2014, 10:33 AM)Johnny Wrote: I got my Plisson today. I must say I like it. It builds lather like crazy. But, it will not replace my Muhle/Jagger V2 Synthetics. It will just fall in to the rotation.

Do you feel it is as good as the Muhle or better or not quite as good?

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 06-19-2014, 12:37 PM
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(06-19-2014, 12:13 PM)shave/brush Wrote:
(06-19-2014, 10:33 AM)Johnny Wrote: I got my Plisson today. I must say I like it. It builds lather like crazy. But, it will not replace my Muhle/Jagger V2 Synthetics. It will just fall in to the rotation.

Do you feel it is as good as the Muhle or better or not quite as good?

After just one use IMHO the Muhle V2 is a better brush. But that is just after one use. Ask me again in about two weeks.

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