06-18-2014, 01:13 PM
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Currently use a merkur 23c and still swap between feather astra sp and 7oclock yellow tried red personnas but im still undecided. My issue is my neck I get a perfect two pass shave on my face and head but two passes leave lots of stubble on my neck and a third pass irritates my neck. So would an oc razor or more aggressive razor help?

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 06-18-2014, 01:19 PM
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  • Triad
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Straight Razor Rolleyes

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 06-18-2014, 05:17 PM
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Possibly a Weber

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 06-18-2014, 05:47 PM
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Don't chase the BBS shave, just work on getting an irritation free comfortable shave. As your skills improve so will the quality of the shave. I am able to pull fantastic shaves with everything from a Gillette Tech to a R41.


My favorite blades are my favorite blades. Pick up some different packs of blades and figure what works best for you.

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 06-18-2014, 06:01 PM
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(06-18-2014, 05:47 PM)PanChango Wrote: Don't chase the BBS shave, just work on getting an irritation free comfortable shave. As your skills improve so will the quality of the shave. I am able to pull fantastic shaves with everything from a Gillette Tech to a R41.


My favorite blades are my favorite blades. Pick up some different packs of blades and figure what works best for you.
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as your learning curve goes up after some time, you may try merkur slant with light touch. the key with aggressive razors is to put little to no pressure, just let the weight of the razor do the work. with this kind of a razor two passes are more than enough to get you a close shave with minimum irritation.

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 06-18-2014, 07:25 PM
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As has been mentioned, don't try for the BBS shave on the neck. Be patient because once your technique improves, you will start noticing an improvement in the neck area and you will be satisfied with a darn-find shave, there.
Best of luck.
If you want to try another razor, the Weber PH is a lovley razor, but the Mekur 23C is quite adequate.

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 06-18-2014, 08:10 PM
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I agree not to chase a BBS shave on the neck. Come to think of it, I rarely try for one on my checks.
And, I have learned my lip area is way to sensitive to try a BBS shave.

I personally get my best shaves on my neck using SE razors. Almost no effort with a light touch.

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 06-18-2014, 09:03 PM
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  • Johnny
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All sound advise above. I will just add, really study the different directions of hair growth on your neck. That was the hardest thing for me. I wanted everything to be north and south or east and west and that was just not the case. All the different directions my hair grows on my neck would drive a geometry teacher crazy.

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 06-18-2014, 09:43 PM
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I'm having similar results with you, and now I'm getting over it with Gillette New.

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 06-18-2014, 09:47 PM
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I'm surprised no one has said suggested a Cobra...

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 06-18-2014, 10:23 PM
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suggesting a $200-$250 razor to a newbie is too demanding !

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 06-19-2014, 12:21 AM
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A slant may help, but start - as others have suggested - by mapping out the growth direction and a getting a sampler pack of blades.

A light touch also helps a lot, and while a BBS is great I feel that a comfortable, enjoyable SAS beats an irritated neck any day.

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 06-19-2014, 01:28 AM
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(06-18-2014, 10:23 PM)buddingshaver Wrote: suggesting a $200-$250 razor to a newbie is too demanding !

Are we just assuming he's a noobie based on his post count or did I miss something? Good point though, I'd highly suggest a 37c.

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 06-19-2014, 03:08 AM
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Thanks for the advice ive been attempting to map my growth its so crazy. It goes differnt way all over plus it lays flat everywhere except my jawline. And I am new only been de shaving about 3 months

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 06-19-2014, 07:40 AM
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I am just lucky that I'm an insensitive slob, as my wife tells me. I do three passes every day along with touch ups with no issues. As mentioned by others, the whiskers on my neck grow every which way and once I learned how to shave accordingly I get a BBS almost every time

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 06-19-2014, 07:44 AM
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(06-19-2014, 01:28 AM)ShaneN. Wrote:
(06-18-2014, 10:23 PM)buddingshaver Wrote: suggesting a $200-$250 razor to a newbie is too demanding !

Are we just assuming he's a noobie based on his post count or did I miss something? Good point though, I'd highly suggest a 37c.

I am not certain, but based on his question, you can probably make that presumption. Smile

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 06-19-2014, 01:27 PM
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Map the growth of your face/neck. A 2 pass shave that gives you what you seek may not be possible. Until you map the beard growth you really can't decide anything.

I'm nothing special; I'm simply the way I am (YMMV), but a 2 pass BBS isn't possible for me. I do what I refer to as 2 1/3 passes. That extra 1/3rd pass is on the left side of the neck. But I discovered that minimal shave (for me alone) by mapping my beard. If I got irritation I'd either stop the 2 1/3 pass BBS, change razors, or change technique. But what I do is no roadmap for what you require.

Map your beard to find which way it grows.

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 06-19-2014, 01:33 PM
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Every razor/blade combo in my den is a two pass razor/blade combo.

Once you do what everyone above says, and get your technique down and good, you refine that technique to meet your needs. I've adjusted my strokes so that I can do every shave in 2 passes and pretty much always get the same results.

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 06-19-2014, 03:38 PM
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If three passes with your current razor cause irritation, a more aggressive razor will certainly accomplish the same undesired effect in two passes.

I agree with what others have offered. The neck is only conquered with knowledge of your growth patterns, accumulated practice/experience, and developed technique.

It was once observed on another forum that, while adequate technique is fairly quickly attained, mastery of the traditional wetshave takes at least a year. Though I originally learned to shave with a Schick Injector around 1967 and was later seduced by a Gillette Adjustable, twin-blade cartridge razors, and a couple of electric shavers, I was only shaving then to get the job done. When I came to these forums, some eight years ago, I was exposed to the goal of a skilled shave with advanced technique. I have been doing this for over eight years and I find that my technique is still evolving on a subtle level, with the occasional new discovery. (And I still have my challenges with the neck!)

I think you just need more time with your current equipment, striving for a comfortable shave first, mapping the growth of your neck whiskers, and letting your technique evolve naturally. As long as you look clean-shaven and you aren't tearing up your collars, you're doing great. Smile

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 06-19-2014, 03:47 PM
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(06-19-2014, 01:33 PM)CRAusmus Wrote: Every razor/blade combo in my den is a two pass razor/blade combo.

Once you do what everyone above says, and get your technique down and good, you refine that technique to meet your needs. I've adjusted my strokes so that I can do every shave in 2 passes and pretty much always get the same results.

I think that might be hair type dependent. I have yet to find a combo leaving my near BBS in two passes. I have crazh growth patter mixed with dark, thick, course hair. I swear my stubble puts up a good fight! ahaha

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