05-16-2012, 06:35 AM
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  • Songwind
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  • Burnsville, MN
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We hear a fair amount about the Semogue SOC and limited edition 2-band brushes, but that's about it.

I'm curious if anyone has anything to say, good or bad, about the company's silvertip and best offerings?

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 05-16-2012, 06:39 AM
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  • ben74
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(05-16-2012, 06:35 AM)Songwind Wrote: We hear a fair amount about the Semogue SOC and limited edition 2-band brushes, but that's about it.

I'm curious if anyone has anything to say, good or bad, about the company's silvertip and best offerings?

I have 3 Semogues, a SOC and 2010 LE and 2011 LE... ALL badgers!

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 05-16-2012, 06:42 AM
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  • Johnny
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(05-16-2012, 06:39 AM)ben74 Wrote:
(05-16-2012, 06:35 AM)Songwind Wrote: We hear a fair amount about the Semogue SOC and limited edition 2-band brushes, but that's about it.

I'm curious if anyone has anything to say, good or bad, about the company's silvertip and best offerings?

I have 3 Semogues, a SOC and 2010 LE and 2011 LE... ALL badgers!

And???Huh

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 05-16-2012, 06:44 AM
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  • Songwind
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(05-16-2012, 06:39 AM)ben74 Wrote: I have 3 Semogues, a SOC and 2010 LE and 2011 LE... ALL badgers!

Those are 2 band, right? What do you think?

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 05-16-2012, 07:11 AM
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Eric, the only Semogue badger I have is their SOC 2-band. So while I can't comment on their Silvertip and Best offerings I will certainly be watching this thread to hear what others say. I am really enjoying the SOC 2-band so I could see some of their other offerings finding their way into my Nook... eventually.

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 05-16-2012, 07:31 AM
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I had a couple of the Semogue HD badgers (the higher density knots). They were silvertip brushes that were nice and soft, and really good at whipping up a lather.

That said, even the HD ones were pretty loosely filled and floppy. The reminded me of the production Kents. Not to my taste, so they're gone. They may have changed since I last tried one of the production badger brushes (been over 2 years), but that makes it hard for me to take the risk on any of their badger brushes.

I like the hair used in the SOC - some scritch and nice backbone and flowthrough. I've not used any of the LE's.

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 05-16-2012, 07:41 AM
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  • ben74
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Semogue Badgers
[attachment=2128]

2010 LE - 3 band (The clear handle, in the middle)
Knot: 24 x 53mm
Good tip softness and good backbone. Needs to be denser though IMO.

2011 LE - 2 band Finest (The dark handle on the left)
Knot: 25 x 52 mm
I haven't used it!

SOC - 2 band Finest (Wood handle on the right)
Knot: 24 x 52mm
Better density and backbone than the 2040HD (HD = high density!) which I sold and a very good all-rounder (face lathering, bowl lathering, creams or hard soaps).

The quality of the badger hair in all the knots is excellent.

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 05-16-2012, 08:00 AM
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I had the LE in size one. So far out of all the brushes I have had, it has been the worst. No word of a lie, it was like lathering with 80 grit sandpaper.

On the other hand, i've tried the 2040HD and 730HD and both have been quite good. A little lofty for me but the quality of the silver tip hair was nice and the density was also spot on.

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 05-16-2012, 08:08 AM
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I have the 2010 LE and it's a great brush. Unfortunatly the knot size is just a little to much for me. Other than that i think you can't go wrong with a Semogue.

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 05-16-2012, 10:04 AM
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  • Teiste
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I have this one :

[Image: P1230616.jpg]

Which is a prototipe. 22 mm knot and 50 mm loft.Finest badger hair.Possibily my fav brush of all I have tried so far.

And also this one :

[Image: proto.jpg?m=1337191350]

Which is another proto,for the Semogue LE 2010 premium silvertip edition.This one has a knot of 22mm and a loft of 49 mm,with the premium silvertip.A brush that puts the Rooney 1/1 super silvertip to shame...Biggrin

Maybe is time to talk to Mr Gomes about some new items...

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 05-16-2012, 03:04 PM
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  • ben74
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Great pics Tieste, thanks again for sharing.

You have a few surprises yourself (especially with prototypes and the like)...

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 05-16-2012, 03:10 PM
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Tieste, is your Semogue finest badger hair a prototype of an existing model (SOC 2 band) or of something we can look forward to in the future?

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 05-16-2012, 03:27 PM
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  • Teiste
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(05-16-2012, 03:10 PM)jaguar Wrote: Tieste, is your Semogue finest badger hair a prototype of an existing model (SOC 2 band) or of something we can look forward to in the future?

The first,yes and hopefully,the second too.Biggrin

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 05-16-2012, 06:36 PM
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  • DLP
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I've been using a Semogue 2015HD for a few months. Nice brush. feels soft on the face yet generates great lather.

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 05-16-2012, 06:59 PM
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(05-16-2012, 06:36 PM)DLP Wrote: I've been using a Semogue 2015HD for a few months. Nice brush. feels soft on the face yet generates great lather.

Those are the ones I was looking at. Very reasonable prices, and a well known maker. Might do as a gateway brush.

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 05-16-2012, 07:19 PM
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Teiste,
Wow, those prototypes look fantastic!

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 05-16-2012, 08:31 PM
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  • CMur12
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I've bought a lot of badger brushes in famous brands, but my favorites of all are the Semogue 2040, 2015, and 730, in standard density. These three brushes have the same brushhead in different handles.

The characteristics I seek in a brush are a true fan-shape, controlled bloom during lathering, good flow-through, and just the right amount of flex for my technique of lathering in a bowl - and these brushes have it.

I also have the 740 in pure badger and the 750 in best. From these two brushes, I would say that Semogue best badger is a more like pure badger than it is like silvertip, and my 750 has a denser loft than my 740 has. That said, my 740 is probably the most efficient latherer of all my brushes. The 740/pure has very little backbone, while the 750/best has considerably more.

I had come to the conclusion that there was no such thing as a silvertip brush in a fan shape that would resist blooming into an amorphous blob when lathering. I got a 2015 back in 2008 and was blown away to finally discover a brush that had exactly the performance characteristics I had sought - in silvertip! I then started trying other Semogue brushes. The 2008 LE, in high-density silvertip was too rounded for my lathering style and the added density made it hold more lather and bloom more, and it didn't lather as efficiently as the brushes in standard density.

I have found SOC and Semogue LE brushes to be incompatible with my lathering technique, as they are generally too rounded, too dense, and too stiff, while the traditional Semogues are just right.

- Murray

PS. My favorite boar brushes are also Semogues.Cool

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 05-16-2012, 08:35 PM
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  • ben74
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Great insight in to the characterics of your Semogue badgers Murray. Happy to hear you've found the right one for you.

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 05-16-2012, 09:40 PM
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  • CMur12
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Thanks, Ben. I once lived in Portugal, so finding the perfect brush in a Portuguese product made the experience doubly rewarding!

- Murray

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 05-17-2012, 08:38 PM
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  • greyhawk
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I have both size 1 and size 2 of the 2011 Badger LE's.

I absolutely love 'em. I may sell one at some point since they are obviously similar, but the handle is superb and the knots are fantastic. I've heard complaints of scritchiness but it hasn't bothered me one bit. They are very dense; the size 1 is a soap monster--the size 2 has more loft so it is not quite as firm, but still a ton of backbone.

I've never had a Rooney Finest but I've heard a number of guys say these are the closest thing to it.

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