07-08-2014, 09:35 AM
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looking for recommendations for you choice of stainless steel for a novice. Why? I just prefer stainless to chrome. I collect custom knives and the plated brass stuff always has issues.

So I'm looking for top notch quality on the mild side. My research says Feather AS-D2....mild razor...is that what I want?

If you feel chrome is a better choice then maybe the Muhle R89?

Thanks in advance.

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 07-08-2014, 09:46 AM
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Somewhere in this wonderful section is a list that Ben posted that compares all, or almost all, the DE's that he has used, and ranks them in terms of aggressiveness (I want to say it's an Ikon thread). I've copied it, but it's on my computer at home. However I think the bottom three were the AS-D1, AS-D2, and the Ikon OSS. These are three razors that are on my Stainless Steel Wish List, in that order. If I can remember, I'll paste the list when I get home tonight for you.

I'm sure you'll get other suggestions though too as well.


Welcome to "The Nook" by the way...Glad you're here..

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 07-08-2014, 09:57 AM
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Check out Above The Tie razors. Made in the USA razors all stainless steel. I got my ATT razor a month ago and I love it.

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 07-08-2014, 10:34 AM
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(07-08-2014, 09:57 AM)bigjustin Wrote: Check out Above The Tie razors. Made in the USA razors all stainless steel. I got my ATT razor a month ago and I love it.

Thank you....I have checked out their website. Very nice. I like the modularity. And I like made in USA. I think it makes sense for me to start with the straight bar (vs. open comb)...right? Just seems like it would be intuitively easier to use. I shave everyday...I'm no Grizzly Adams....

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 07-08-2014, 10:43 AM
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I went with the colossus closed comb h2 head. Its their most aggressive plate. They also sell a kit that has all 3 plates. If you have questions just email them. Stan will respond promptly. They also offer a 30 day no questions money back guarantee.

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 07-08-2014, 11:32 AM
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Very happy with my Weber.

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 07-08-2014, 12:42 PM
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Here's the link: http://shavenook.com/thread-ikon-shave-c...01-preview

Post #8 has Ben's list. I was right about the bottom 3 being the least aggressive though.

Or this:
(08-01-2013, 09:34 PM)ben74 Wrote:
(08-01-2013, 09:14 PM)Ronnie Aloha Wrote: Ben,
How would you rank the current Ikon lineup in terms of closeness of shave?

In order of most aggressive to least:

Muhle R41 (2011)
Joris
FaTip
Muhle R41 (2013)
iKon Standard (current model)
iKon Deluxe (current model)
iKon Deluxe (2nd generation)
Muhle R41 (pre 2010)
iKon Shave Craft 101
iKon Modern Bulldog
Pils 101
iKon Modern
iKon OSS
Feather D2
Feather D1

A quick list and in keeping with individual preferences please remember YMMV...

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 07-09-2014, 08:53 AM
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As much as I'm liking the Feather, I wouldn't recommend it to someone just starting with DE. The sweet spot is quite narrow and the shaving angle is very different. I believe I would have been very frustrated if this were my first razor.

The Mühle 89 is more forgiving and I have 2 of them just because I like how they shave. But if stainless is what you want, many folks highly recommend Above the Tie for both their products and their 30-day guarantee/exchange program.

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 07-09-2014, 01:35 PM
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(07-09-2014, 08:53 AM)Karlo Wrote: As much as I'm liking the Feather, I wouldn't recommend it to someone just starting with DE. The sweet spot is quite narrow and the shaving angle is very different. I believe I would have been very frustrated if this were my first razor.

The Mühle 89 is more forgiving and I have 2 of them just because I like how they shave. But if stainless is what you want, many folks highly recommend Above the Tie for both their products and their 30-day guarantee/exchange program.

Thanks.. I've heard & read lots of good things about the 89. I'm thinking it might be best to start there and then look at ATT. I really like the concept of ATT products.

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 07-09-2014, 01:57 PM
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You may get lucky, but I think it would be difficult to get the right razor just by choosing one as your first. If you have been DE shaving then please share what you have used and what you like/don't like.

If not please know mild does not mean gentle and aggressive does not mean harsh. You will be better served to shave a while and try different razors until you find what you like. Then get your stainless razor.

My own journey began with the EJ Jagger de89. A great starting place. I tried many razors before I found the ATT R1, which suits me perfectly. It also took awhile to learn how to shave properly, but then maybe I'm a slow learner.

What ever you decide, good luck!

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 07-09-2014, 10:08 PM
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(07-09-2014, 01:57 PM)Aimless1 Wrote: My own journey began with the EJ Jagger de89. A great starting place. I tried many razors before I found the ATT R1, which suits me perfectly. It also took awhile to learn how to shave properly, but then maybe I'm a slow learner.

What ever you decide, good luck!

I'd like to think that we are all still learning, no matter how long we've been doing this. Smile Just when I think I've mastered the fundamentals, I still discover new things about angle and pressure and lather.

We're all in good company.

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 07-10-2014, 06:15 AM
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(07-09-2014, 10:08 PM)Karlo Wrote:
(07-09-2014, 01:57 PM)Aimless1 Wrote: My own journey began with the EJ Jagger de89. A great starting place. I tried many razors before I found the ATT R1, which suits me perfectly. It also took awhile to learn how to shave properly, but then maybe I'm a slow learner.

What ever you decide, good luck!

I'd like to think that we are all still learning, no matter how long we've been doing this. Smile Just when I think I've mastered the fundamentals, I still discover new things about angle and pressure and lather.

We're all in good company.

very well said !

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 07-12-2014, 12:19 PM
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Thank you all for suggestions. I have to just bite the bullet (so to speak) and get one & start. Any love for PILS? The head looks very interesting....

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 10-08-2014, 08:14 AM
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I love the iKon OSS because it has both open comb and solid bar in one razor (as does the Shavecraft 101), and I find that an open comb is very useful if it's been a few days since shaving. The OC lets the lather and whiskers get right up to the blade. The solid bar side is wonderful at polishing and touch-ups. I think there is a common sense that OC razors are, by their very nature, more aggressive. I don't think that it is necessarily so. The OSS is a very mild razor - both sides.
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 10-08-2014, 03:14 PM
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It sounds like the Weber would be a good fit.....

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 10-08-2014, 03:37 PM
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Weber. A great value at $70 and made in the USA.

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 10-08-2014, 08:51 PM
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+1 on the Weber, had mine a year now.

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 10-11-2014, 05:34 AM
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Many great razors, but for starters, definitely a Weber. Great price/performance ratio. Not too aggressive, gives a great shave and is a good reference point.

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 10-11-2014, 10:39 AM
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(07-12-2014, 12:19 PM)ron sabbagh Wrote: Thank you all for suggestions. I have to just bite the bullet (so to speak) and get one & start. Any love for PILS? The head looks very interesting....

I have 30 something razors and since my wife gave me a pils a year ago the other razors have been collecting dust. It is that good.

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 10-11-2014, 11:43 AM
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I'd like to go off of what many people have already said, but I it's also important to note how much money you want to sell for your first stainless?

I have an ATT R1, an iKon and am soon be getting a Weber for stainless razors. Though people rave over the AS-D2 and it's efficiency / comfort, I wouldnt suggest it for a novice because it shaves so differently from other razors. I would go with a Weber because of it's simply an amazing razor and you can't beat it for its price.

I love my ATT but maybe start off with the Weber. I like my iKon but am not crazy about it honestly.

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