08-04-2014, 01:24 PM
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Looking to up the ante on my DE89 - sold as it's proved too mild for my coarse thick beard. I'm enjoying my NEW but I wonder on a standard/closed bar (non-adjustable) that is more aggressive but as smooth (big ask I know) as the NEW and DE89.

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 08-04-2014, 02:22 PM
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The ATT M1 and Weber PH will be slightly more aggressive and "smooth".

As far as the most aggressive standard bar razor(s) are concerned, try the ATT H1 and iKon SB.

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 08-04-2014, 06:18 PM
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In my experience the ATT H1 is the most agressive closed bar DE I have used. The Futur on 6 is also very aggressive. I get great shaves from both.

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 08-04-2014, 06:20 PM
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I like to separate aggression from efficiency. The ATT M1 or M2 are very mild, but very efficient. I can get a 2 pass DFS+ ( BBS on my cheeks ) with 2 passes ( XTG / ATG ) with either of them, shallow angle technique...

Enjoy your hunt!

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 08-04-2014, 06:42 PM
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Get a Muhle R41 2011 version. Easily one of the most aggressive razors around and it really is NOT a true open comb, more of a rake. The razor on the left is the Muhle R41 2013 version and the razor on the right is the Muhle R41 2011 version.

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 08-05-2014, 12:49 AM
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Thanks all. Seems consensus sits with the ATTs - albeit a split on the H1 and M1 - I'll go off and do some research as they're not too common in these parts (Australia).

Such a shame, I have a Weber Bulldog handle on its way, and I ummed-and-arred about whether to just get the whole razor. I only opted against it as the head looked so similar to my DE89. I knew I should have went with my gut on this one. Gosarnit!!!!

Hmmm…this is not the first time I've seen the iKon SB mentioned - many say it is smoother and more 'efficient' than the OC. Hmmm..these we can get locally.

Finally, I have to be honest the R41 both intrigues and scares me…more of the latter though. It looks like the Jessica Rabbit of razors to me. Confused

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 08-05-2014, 06:29 AM
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Have you considered an adjustable? After a bit of experimenting you can dial them in for a mild or aggressive shave depending on your desire for the day. Of the modern-made, still available retail, adjustables I've used I quite like the Merkur Futur. It has a pleasing design with a wide adjustable range so you can dial it right in where you like it for the type of shave you want on any given day.

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 08-05-2014, 06:43 AM
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For a cheap, cheerfull and aggressive razor, look no further than the Lord Racer Smile
Or you could go for a slant Wink

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 08-05-2014, 09:32 AM
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The iKon Standard bar is aggressive yet smooth.

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 08-05-2014, 10:15 AM
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I agree with those who suggest the iKon razor, but let me add a few more:
Tradere SB
Pils
Barbasol Floating Head (if you can find one)

The above 3 are certainly on the more expensive side, but each are incredibly efficient shavers. I have a fairly coarse beard and I get a BBS shave with one pass from all 3.

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 08-05-2014, 12:12 PM
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The DE89 & Weber & ATT M1 will all deliver a similar shave providing you're using the same handle and blade for comparison. I started with the De89, migrated to the Weber bulldog and finally all three SB ATT razors. I returned the M1 as too mild and too similar to the other two. The R1 became my daily razor and I kept the H1 which I also enjoy using occasionally.

The Progress/Mergress (adjustable razor) is a great recommendation. It will help you dial in the level of aggressiveness you prefer for your beard.

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 08-06-2014, 01:35 AM
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Too many folks here to thank - so huge THANKS to all. Thumbup

A lot to digest and we'll see where I come up once I've gone down the myriad of research rabbit holes.

Meanwhile, have a Weber PH head following the handle - jeez they are good folks at Weber! But I now have another 4 or 5 razors on my list.

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 08-13-2014, 12:46 AM
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Muhle r41 and ATT h1 plate.

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2011 R41
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 08-14-2014, 04:51 AM
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  • Balj86
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This razor is not really talked about, but the Matador Toro Mastiff is pretty aggressive. I have a thick coarse stubble and it wipes away the whiskers pretty easily.

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 08-14-2014, 05:14 AM
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I vote Ikon SB also

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 08-15-2014, 10:32 AM
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(08-04-2014, 06:18 PM)keithmax Wrote: In my experience the ATT H1 is the most agressive closed bar DE I have used.

I agree with this statement. The H1 is the most aggressive SB razor that I've used, but it's very smooth. If you don't want to go that far, an R1 might be a good choice. For what it's worth, from what I've heard, the R1 is closer to the H1 than to the M1 (so, though it's between the M1 and H1, it's quite a bit more aggressive than the M1). I have the H1 and H2, and they're both excellent.

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 08-15-2014, 03:25 PM
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I have both the H1 & the R1,the R1 is less aggressive.Using feathers the H1 is a lot more aggressive.Putting them side by side you can see a much bigger gap between the balde & the bar on the H1.Both are very good shavers.

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 08-17-2014, 01:53 PM
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Why SB? Cadet / RazoRock make a great OC razor that is cheap, aggressive, and probably available in Oz.

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 08-17-2014, 03:28 PM
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Have you considered a single edge razor? Compared to most safety bar DE razors, the GEM Micromatic Clog Pruf is fairly aggressive as is GEM or Ever Ready 1912. Both can be purchased in good condition for around $15-20. If you go with one of these, make sure you buy a good shaving quality SE blade, not those found in hardware stores.

eric.

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 08-17-2014, 04:09 PM
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One other thing to consider with the ATT is the 30 day guarantee. If you try the H1 and it is too much for you, you can return it for an R1.

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