08-14-2014, 08:18 AM
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  • Crag
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Hello Everyone!

I recently got a Shavemac in Finest, and while I like the softness of the face feel I wish it had more backbone. Perhaps it was the size of the knot, since it's just an 18mm x 44mm loft. But it still has too little backbone for me.

Does anyone know of a particular brush style - maker that has the softness of the Shavemac Finest, but more backbone? My only requisite is that it needs to be a 3-band brush. I have my 2-bands, and my Synthetics, and now want a 3-band.

I was looking at the Vulfix 660S Large, 22mm x 50mm loft in Super, but someone said it's floppy and I do not want a floppy brush...

Knot size should be from 20 to 23mm.

What do you guys think?

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 08-14-2014, 08:34 AM
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  • Giorgio
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I'll vote for Shavemac D01 3 band... As soft as the Finest (I find it a little softer) but definitely more backbone. It's one of my favorite hair types

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 08-14-2014, 09:10 AM
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Matt, stay with sHavemac have have several D01 they are excellent.


Charles U.K

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 08-14-2014, 09:36 AM
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D01 3 band, if you want more, D01 2band. You won't want any more after this, I'm sure.

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 08-14-2014, 09:50 AM
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  • Mouser
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I have a TGN Finest fan shape that Gary did for me. Lot's of backbone and pretty soft I think. But then, I like knots of all types and feels. It's all good, as the kids say nowadays.

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 08-14-2014, 09:54 AM
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  • Attila
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To my knowledge, nothing has more backbone than a Shavemac D01 2 band set at a lower loft. Too much for me certainly!

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 08-14-2014, 10:59 AM
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Matt, if you want to stick with the Shavemac Finest, go with the lowest loft available for the knot. That is what I did and it definitely improve the backbone.

Michael

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 08-14-2014, 11:03 AM
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  • Crag
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(08-14-2014, 10:59 AM)monarch2001 Wrote: Matt, if you want to stick with the Shavemac Finest, go with the lowest loft available for the knot. That is what I did and it definitely improve the backbone.

Michael

That's a great idea! I was just thinking about shooting an email to Rudy...thanks for the suggestion!

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 08-14-2014, 11:04 AM
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  • refles
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I just got a D01 2band and I'm very very happy with it, but the face feel is a scrubbing sensation, more so than Simpson Manchurian. It's insanely overfilled knot, which adds to a superb backbone.

For just a soft feel, I would have to say D01 3 band should be the softer feel, the density I would venture to guess reinforces the backbone.

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 08-15-2014, 09:57 AM
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Yeah the D01 3 band seems the right choice, it is their silvertip grade but high density.

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 08-15-2014, 12:04 PM
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D01 3-band

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 08-16-2014, 11:43 AM
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D01 2 band by far. It takes a lot of time, but the 2 band will soften some and provides an amazing experience. It's excellent for hard soaps and face lathering. The bloom is also minimal so it is a great brush to use with soaps which come in small containers.

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 08-16-2014, 12:02 PM
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(08-16-2014, 11:43 AM)wingdo Wrote: D01 2 band by far. It takes a lot of time, but the 2 band will soften some and provides an amazing experience. It's excellent for hard soaps and face lathering. The bloom is also minimal so it is a great brush to use with soaps which come in small containers.

Not sure I agree, Doug Smile

I have owned 8 D01 2-bands in bulbs and fan shaped knots in a variety of knot sizes - and BY FAR, all these 2-bands have a more dense and rough feel on the face, Manchurians of the past even do not match this roughness IMHO.

The OP asks for a brush that has more backbone, but still has the softness of the Finest hair - you would have to use a D01 2-band for 50-100 times before it would become even remotely close to the feel of a soft Finest hair brush.

I still would like to suggest a D01 3-band.

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 08-16-2014, 01:29 PM
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Good call, I missed the "softness of the finest" part. I never really found shavemac finest to be soft at least compared to 3 band so I didn't even think about it.

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 08-17-2014, 06:17 PM
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D01 3 band isn't soft either in bulb or fan, the hairs are thick and coarse.

I would recommend a Shavemac in finest or premium silvertip and request for high density, or purchase a Simpsons in Super Badger.

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 08-18-2014, 01:04 PM
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(08-17-2014, 06:17 PM)mixershave Wrote: D01 3 band isn't soft either in bulb or fan, the hairs are thick and coarse.

I would recommend a Shavemac in finest or premium silvertip and request for high density, or purchase a Simpsons in Super Badger.

I disagree, my friend.

I own 4 D01 3-band brushes and the one Rydy Vey made for me in 26 mm fan shaped knot with 52 mm loft is very gentle feeling and among my Top 5 brushes for face lathering.
It's not velvet soft like a Thäter 3-band but definitely soft, and might be just what the OP wants.

I also own a great custom made Shavemac brush made by Bernd, the owner of Shavemac. It's 25 mm knot size and 48 mm loft, fan shaped knot. Awesome soft while solid face feel.

And the Shavemac is also D01 3-band

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 08-18-2014, 02:47 PM
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  • refles
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I'm really finding all the commentary quite informative... Claus, the OP is wanting something with more backbone than the Finest.. would Thater 3 band answer that need as well? Since it can be agreed that Thater is very soft and velvety (zero scritch)

I've been curious for a while about Thater as I would love the velvety feel and thought my Simpson 2 band (current gen) has that but I've read that Thater offers more backbone than Simpson's (in 2 band), but not to digress.. how does Thater backbone stack up against Finest's backbone? But maybe the OP is not looking to go outside of Shavemac at this time and is looking for something to answer the softness question within the Shavemac lineup.

Wouldn't Shavemac knots loosen up and break in over time? (or by time it opens up and softens, someone looking for softness would have moved onto another brush because they don't have what they wanted)

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 08-18-2014, 07:12 PM
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(08-14-2014, 09:36 AM)Dipesh Wrote: D01 3 band, if you want more, D01 2band. You won't want any more after this, I'm sure.

I'm sure, too. I may be wimp, but I found the D01 2 band to have more backbone than a wire scrub brush. I think I could use it to remove paint from the hull of a battleship. The D01 3 band is still extremely scrubby, but w/o the (for me) unbearable scritch.

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 08-18-2014, 08:16 PM
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  • Crag
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I just got a Thater 3-band Brush from a friend to try and I like it, but it is not dense enough for me! I think that if it was just a bit more dense it would be a keeper. It is softer than the Finest, but the density just is not there. I will probably ask Rudy to make me a custom handled 23mm D01 in 3-band. I had one of the prototype Shavemac Variable Loft brushes and in a silly synthetic tryst I sold it, but yes, that particular hair was very nice!

I do think that everyone who suggested the D01 hair is right, so I'm off to save some money!

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 08-19-2014, 01:34 AM
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I have to agree with those that mentioned the D01 2-band in a short loft. Too much for me....

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