04-06-2012, 08:28 PM
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  • gijames
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all the reviews here are very helpful in learning about OC razors... I guess the R41 would be more aggressive than the OSS OC side?

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 04-07-2012, 12:24 AM
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Massively so.

The new R41 is by far the most aggressive razor I've used. It's more aggressive than an OLD or a NEW (short or long comb).

I've not tried a slant so can't comment as to how the R41 compares against one.

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 04-13-2012, 02:47 PM
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(03-04-2012, 01:10 PM)bullgoose Wrote:
(03-04-2012, 12:51 PM)PanchoVilla Wrote: I find Gregs 2nd generation OC Bulldog to be his best work.

JMHO

The 2nd generation OC Bulldog is my favorite iKon to date as well.

Somebody have of pic of this? I'm trying to figure out what each generation looks like.

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 04-13-2012, 04:07 PM
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(04-13-2012, 02:47 PM)Shanman Wrote:
(03-04-2012, 01:10 PM)bullgoose Wrote:
(03-04-2012, 12:51 PM)PanchoVilla Wrote: I find Gregs 2nd generation OC Bulldog to be his best work.

JMHO

The 2nd generation OC Bulldog is my favorite iKon to date as well.

Somebody have of pic of this? I'm trying to figure out what each generation looks like.

I believe they were the high polished version where the blade fit into a slot on the head. italianbarber.com might still have a picture of it on his site.

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 04-13-2012, 05:07 PM
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(04-13-2012, 02:47 PM)Shanman Wrote: Somebody have of pic of this? I'm trying to figure out what each generation looks like.

This is the one I was referencing (they came with an OC plate):

http://www.shaving101.com/index.php/prod...razor.html

The first generation was too aggressive, but this was pretty comfortable and gave a nice shave.

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 04-13-2012, 05:53 PM
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(04-13-2012, 05:07 PM)jpakstis Wrote:
(04-13-2012, 02:47 PM)Shanman Wrote: Somebody have of pic of this? I'm trying to figure out what each generation looks like.

This is the one I was referencing (they came with an OC plate):

http://www.shaving101.com/index.php/prod...razor.html

The first generation was too aggressive, but this was pretty comfortable and gave a nice shave.

That was a beautiful plating job I believe it was done by Razor Emporium.
Thanks for the link.

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 04-13-2012, 06:24 PM
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  • Shanman
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Interesting, I guess I actually already own the first gen and second generation with both open comb and safety bar blade beds and didn't even know it. My iKon Modern runs circles around them both. I see that italianbarber.com is now a dead link??

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 04-14-2012, 09:01 AM
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I had that razor - found it too mild....even milder than a Feather AS.

I also had the OC version that came out at the same time. I think it was called the 'Deluxe', as it was a clone of the NEW Deluxe head.

The OC version was a nice shaver. I passed it on to a friend in Turkey. Basically, I prefer the old Gillette NEW Deluxe, as I like old stuff. The iKon was a really well-made copy, though.

My favourite iKon razor was the first generation Old-type head on the extended Tech handle. Matte finish, and the shave was excellent.

This was when Greg was just starting out, and there were wild variations in the finish quality, and overall machining quality of the razors. Some of the heads were unusable. I was lucky enough to get one of the good ones.

I've mentioned elsewhere that I tried another iKon at that time (one of the spindle ones), and that was pretty horrible. It had uneven blade exposure, the blade was slightly twisted on one side, and it cut my face to ribbons whenever I used it. I put it down to engineering hiccups.

Since that time, I think the quality and consistency of the iKons has improved tremendously. However, I still miss my first generation iKon. This cold be nostalgia speaking, but I remember it as one of the best DE razors I ever used.

(04-13-2012, 05:07 PM)jpakstis Wrote:
(04-13-2012, 02:47 PM)Shanman Wrote: Somebody have of pic of this? I'm trying to figure out what each generation looks like.

This is the one I was referencing (they came with an OC plate):

http://www.shaving101.com/index.php/prod...razor.html

The first generation was too aggressive, but this was pretty comfortable and gave a nice shave.

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 04-17-2012, 05:39 PM
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I would prefer all bar or all comb, but not a mix on the same head. Too gimmicky for me.

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 04-17-2012, 06:37 PM
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Yohann, i would love to try one of Ikon's original OC razors.

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 04-18-2012, 08:48 AM
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(04-17-2012, 06:37 PM)celestino Wrote: Yohann, i would love to try one of Ikon's original OC razors.

Unfortunately, I sold mine in a DE purge several years ago, and I don't know if I can track it down anymore.

There were only a few made at that time. Greg was just starting out then and his operation was pretty small, I think. In fact, he hadn't yet chosen the iKon name. They're out there, but they're pretty rare.

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 04-18-2012, 10:36 AM
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Thanks anyway, Yohann. Maybe i should post a WTB at some point. i have been getting some of the best shaves with my beat-up $10 Gillette old type OC! Makes me wonder why i have spent so much money on other razors! i need to write this up on a thread.
Be well, sir.

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 11-16-2012, 06:33 PM
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The 2nd generation OC Bulldog is my favorite iKon to date as well.

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Somebody have of pic of this? I'm trying to figure out what each generation looks like.
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The Gen II was available in both matte and polished..

I think I still have at least three of them with long Classic and short Bulldog handles.. I think this one is in storage, but today I had SN#12, a polished version and SN#14, matte finish, both out for a fondle.

Click the pic for more...
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Not sure how many iKons I have at this point, but I have to say I really like Greg's earlier work better. Even the prototype SN#3 spindle two piece is an awesome razor. I think machining costs were too much to bring that razor to market. And man, is it aggressive.

But not to take this thread off-topic. Yesterday I collected an OSS from a friend who didn't want it and I've had two shaves with it so far (an a.m. shave and just finished a p.m.) and I confirm.. I like the earlier iKon's more. I am going to give the OSS some time in rotation before I cast a vote though.

(04-13-2012, 05:07 PM)jpakstis Wrote:
(04-13-2012, 02:47 PM)Shanman Wrote: Somebody have of pic of this? I'm trying to figure out what each generation looks like.

This is the one I was referencing (they came with an OC plate):

http://www.shaving101.com/index.php/prod...razor.html

The first generation was too aggressive, but this was pretty comfortable and gave a nice shave.

The Gen I's are a real aggressive shave..
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Some had issues with blade alignment, but I have to say, none of mine are an issue.

They all have seen rotation..even the prototype spindle..

This is SN#3.. I think Greg still has #1, and only one or two are accounted for.. I think there were only 7 made.
[Image: p165721758-4.jpg]

But I continue to lead us off topic. Sorry

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 11-17-2012, 10:33 AM
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(03-26-2012, 05:00 PM)gagarin Wrote:
(03-04-2012, 01:10 PM)bullgoose Wrote:
(03-04-2012, 12:51 PM)PanchoVilla Wrote: I find Gregs 2nd generation OC Bulldog to be his best work.

JMHO

The 2nd generation OC Bulldog is my favorite iKon to date as well.

My view as well. Greg's second generation OC Deluxe Bulldog is an incredible device, don't think any razor made before or after is its equal. Mine is #07, one of Greg's introductory Father's Day's 2010 Specials. If Greg decides to once again produce full OC razors, I intend to be at the front of the line of eager purchasers.

Regards,

+1 on the above I have #11, not used much now. have thought about parting with it but I know I may regret it. Had an SK9 but sold it on as I could not get on with it at all.

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