09-10-2014, 01:00 PM
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I recently received a Vie-Long horsehair model 13066B from Gifts and Care.
I noticed that some/or even most of the Vie-Long are advertised as 35-65 mane and tail mix, but some are listed with a 50-50 mix. The one I ordered is listed as a 50-50 mix. I read some threads on the discrepancy and my views on that are "whatever", if you like it it doesn't matter.
Anyhow-I was pretty sure I would not like this brush, some folks state it has scritch ranging from a little bit to a whole bunch, and I am strongly anti-scritch.
My brush has only the tiniest amount, barely different from a TGN two band in this regard, yet it feels as soft or softer, contradictory I know.
The brush has also been considered somewhat floppy, I agree with this assessment.
The brush definately has a stank to it, more than my stinkiest Badger, and I have never had a odorous boar brush. After a couple of lathers, I am happy to report the odor is dissapating.
I just had to get the whole collection of types of hair/bristle to be sure I am getting my total wet shaving experience.
I submit my review and opinion for your review and opinion:

Boar-soft enough tips, lots of backbone, however too much trouble to hold too little lather.

Badger-Sivertip is my favorite, great tip feel, slightly floppy and great lather builder. Two band has nice tips and a bit of backbone, my current daily driver. Black Badger for me was terribly scritchy and I hated it.

Synthetic Muhle V2-super soft tips, great lather builder,very little splay and real springy. I didn't even know I liked splay and disliked springy until I tried this brush.

Horse-this one has good soft tips, very faint hint of scritch, kinda floppy, great lather builder.

Overall I think I may have a winner here, I don't mind floppy as long as its soft!

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 09-10-2014, 02:22 PM
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Great review. I have been thinking of trying a horse hair brush, this makes me a little more confident in trying it out now.

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 09-10-2014, 05:50 PM
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  • Giorgio
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  • Pennsylvania, US
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Horse hair brushes are excellent, and underrated IMO. I think they've come a long way and are a good way to diversify a den. I have three and enjoy them regularly Cool

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 09-10-2014, 06:01 PM
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  • geezer
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  • Menomonie, Western WI
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Thanks for the review! Well said. I use a couple of modern Turkish Horsehair's and one ancient one. They combine boar and badger abilities and for me hold a three pass shave's lather with ease. Good for hard soaps. I may try one of the expensive ones someday.

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 09-11-2014, 04:40 AM
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  • Karlo
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  • Manila, PHL
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It gets even softer after about a dozen uses. Smile

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 09-11-2014, 04:58 AM
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  • RedRocks
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  • Four-Corners, USA
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I really like my 2 horses! A Vie-Long Beehive in Butterscotch (Bullgoose exclusive), and a NOS Fuller (also butterscotch) circa 1950's. The Fuller, being new old stock, came with a great deal of funk, but that disappeared with just a few lathers.

Both whip up a great lather fairly quickly and hold enough lather for 2 or 3 passes.

~Frank

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 09-11-2014, 08:33 AM
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I like my Vie-long, I actually like the long loft because it isn't as stiff as boar, but I find that the horse hair has these little stingers that really really bite!

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 09-11-2014, 10:03 AM
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Great review ! I have the same brush. It is a fantastic performer. I like more loft on the horsehair, it let's it lather quickly and flow through is excellent.

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 09-12-2014, 10:39 AM
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Great to hear you are enjoying the brush.

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 09-12-2014, 12:15 PM
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(09-11-2014, 08:33 AM)Starkicker Wrote: I like my Vie-long, I actually like the long loft because it isn't as stiff as boar, but I find that the horse hair has these little stingers that really really bite!

+1

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 09-12-2014, 12:22 PM
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So..in other words..you like it? Haven't tried a horse yet. Its hard to convince my brain after cleaning stables in the past.

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 09-16-2014, 12:34 AM
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(09-12-2014, 12:22 PM)AngryGreek Wrote: Haven't tried a horse yet. Its hard to convince my brain after cleaning stables in the past.

Try the 50/50 and not the 65/35 because it's very stiff
The Horses will have not a problem to give their excess hair for brushes.
Are you from Greece ? Work on stables here in the country ?

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 09-16-2014, 02:25 AM
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  • joedy
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  • Shenandoah Valley, Virginia
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Quote:The brush has also been considered somewhat floppy, I agree with this assessment.

As floppy as a Vulfix?

-joedy

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 09-16-2014, 04:39 PM
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(09-16-2014, 02:25 AM)joedy Wrote:
Quote:The brush has also been considered somewhat floppy, I agree with this assessment.

As floppy as a Vulfix?

-joedy
Never used one. I would say as floppy as a silvertip set on the high side.

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 05-19-2015, 12:15 PM
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Update- this brush has shown considerable hair breakage, first noticed as a void, or hole in the knots surface. After more use and closer examination, the rounded bulb shape appears to be subtly changing into more of a flat top. It is only minor at this point. I have experienced zero tangle problems or shedding, but am somewhat disappointed by this and would not recommend this brush. The breakage has not affected its ability to build, hold and dispense lather, but I think it may be a bit more scritchy. 

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 05-19-2015, 12:18 PM
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Oh,
I have the same brush and wanted to chime in, then I read it shows some unusual wear. It had been  a dense and very nicely designed knot to start with..
Thanks for sharing

Philipp

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 05-19-2015, 01:16 PM
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  • Rufus
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  • Greater Toronto Area
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I never did warm up to my Vie-Long 50/50 horsehair brush.  I couldn't really put my finger on what I didn't like about it, other than I just don't like horses.  I have 27 badgers of all grades, 3 synthetics and 1 boar and like them all, but the horse eluded me.  As a result I sent the horse to Vladimir for a re-knot with TGN 2-band finest (which is winging its way back to me right now), as I really liked the handle.

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