10-05-2014, 05:47 PM
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  • oscar11
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I picked up The Grooming Co. brush with the idea of using the knot.
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One tug and out it came. The knot is certainly user friendly unlike the Plisson. It's on the short side, if you want more than 55mm I think you'd be out of luck and I do think 55mm would be pushing it.
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I've only used it a couple of times, not enough to form a firm opinion but I think it will be alright.
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 10-05-2014, 05:50 PM
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  • Agravic
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Very nice!

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 10-05-2014, 06:39 PM
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Wow looks great, well done!

What do you mean user friendly unlike the Plisson?

I just purchased a Plisson from the L'Occitane site because they had them on sale for $30. I plan on removing the knot so I can get a custom handle made. Smile

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 10-05-2014, 06:50 PM
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  • Agravic
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The Plisson/l'Occitane knots are solidly set into the handle, ie much more cumbersome to extricate without bashing up the handle etc.

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 10-05-2014, 07:17 PM
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  • evnpar
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Beautiful brush, Steve. I find this particular knot a little stubby without enough splay, but many find it perfect for face lathering. Nothing beats the softness of this and the Plisson knot, though.

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 10-05-2014, 08:01 PM
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(10-05-2014, 07:17 PM)evnpar Wrote: Beautiful brush, Steve. I find this particular knot a little stubby without enough splay, but many find it perfect for face lathering. Nothing beats the softness of this and the Plisson knot, though.

+1 I didn't enjoy it as much as I do the Plisson, either.

Great looking brush, Steve! Smile

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 10-05-2014, 08:13 PM
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I thought the handle would be uncomfortably small and the knot hard to splay, but it turns out that neither was true. I'm favoring the GC slightly over the Plisson but would want both in the rotation. A longer handle for the GC and acetate for the Plisson would be the only changes I'd opt for.

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 10-06-2014, 02:18 AM
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  • oscar11
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I think a little extra loft could help this knot out and you just don't have much extra loft to work with. With the Plisson, the metal cup is integral to the knot construction. If you cut one off you'll see what I mean. It is just not as conducive for the tinkerer to play around with. I'm waiting on some new handle material and will attempt to give this knot maximum loft which will be around 55mm. Remember, these are just personal observations as to what I like in a brush. The next person might like something entirely different.

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 10-06-2014, 03:08 PM
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  • Gago
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Nice Work!

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 10-07-2014, 03:55 AM
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  • eengler
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Very Nice, the handle looks Great.

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 10-07-2014, 08:09 AM
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Very nice, Oscar. Your handle blows away the stock one.

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 10-07-2014, 08:26 AM
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(10-06-2014, 02:18 AM)oscar11 Wrote: I think a little extra loft could help this knot out and you just don't have much extra loft to work with. With the Plisson, the metal cup is integral to the knot construction. If you cut one off you'll see what I mean. It is just not as conducive for the tinkerer to play around with. I'm waiting on some new handle material and will attempt to give this knot maximum loft which will be around 55mm. Remember, these are just personal observations as to what I like in a brush. The next person might like something entirely different.

+1 These are my impressions, also. I just found the loft too low for these brushes. However, YMMV. Biggrin

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 10-11-2014, 02:42 AM
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Oscar the brush looks gorgeous. Is that a handle you made or you got it from someone?

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 10-11-2014, 11:10 AM
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(10-11-2014, 02:42 AM)Badger Wrote: Oscar the brush looks gorgeous. Is that a handle you made or you got it from someone?

He turned the handle, himself.

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 10-26-2014, 12:54 PM
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I think the knot works fine where it is, but opening it up a couple extra millimeters could be exciting. I'll let you know. Wink

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 11-03-2014, 07:13 AM
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I've now tried The Grooming Co. knot set at 54mm loft, and it has become a Plisson with muscle. Splay has returned to easy, and the extra density makes it even more of a pleasure to lather than the standard Plisson. Experimenting within the 50-54mm range should bring satisfying results, and I imagine 52mm might become very popular. Waiting until Phil brings out the larger GCo brush is another option, but for the here and now this new set-up works fine.

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 11-03-2014, 04:58 PM
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  • German
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I did not like the stock brush at all.
On top the manufacturing quality was really poor.

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 11-03-2014, 05:20 PM
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Nice looking result!

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 11-03-2014, 07:00 PM
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I can't disagree with Georg, and the GCo knot that came with the better conformation went into the custom handle. The original has more scrub, the custom more nearly duplicates a Plisson.

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 11-03-2014, 08:27 PM
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I completely agree with you, Ron. I think these knots would work very well with a loft of 55-60mm, but I know quite a few gentlemen who enjoy that strong scrub/backbone. Smile

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