10-07-2014, 11:40 AM
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  • Rufus
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I'm thinking of buying a VP Leonhardy premium Silvertip brush from The Superior Shave. I don'like big knots, 22/24mm is my sweet spot and I don't like dense brushes such as the Simpson Chubbies. I want a brush with soft tips and good flow through without being floppy. I particularly like the Shavemac Beehive in finest and the Shavemac 3-band Silvertip as well as the Thater silvertip. Of my Simpson brushes the Colonel in best and the Jubilee in Manchurian are my got to brushes; not so the M6 in Manchurian, which though nice, is at the upper end of my tolerance of backbone. I face lather exclusively and use shaving cream 95% of the time. The two VP Leonhardy brushes I have in mind are the 700730 and the Custom Faux Horn Premium Silvertip. What do you think? Any comments on the brand itself?

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 10-07-2014, 12:01 PM
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  • Giorgio
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I am strongly considering (more like already decided on) a 700030 myself, so I'm interested in the responses as well Wink

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 10-07-2014, 12:02 PM
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  • blzrfn
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I have come close to ordering one several times, but I get distracted or somehow talk myself out of it. From the looks of the brush's design you will want to stick to the smaller end of your knot preference as these look to be big bloomers. There was one for sale on this forum not too long ago, so I know at least one member here has owned one and can hopefully shed some light.

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 10-07-2014, 12:59 PM
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(10-07-2014, 12:02 PM)blzrfn Wrote: I have come close to ordering one several times, but I get distracted or somehow talk myself out of it. From the looks of the brush's design you will want to stick to the smaller end of your knot preference as these look to be big bloomers. There was one for sale on this forum not too long ago, so I know at least one member here has owned one and can hopefully shed some light.

I was so tempted by that one...if I hadn't just ordered a Rooney Heritage Emilion 2 I would have been all over it! With all the upcoming acquisitions, this one will have to wait a few months...but hopefully by year end. Like you, I have come very close to ordering one a few times but something always comes up Sad

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 10-07-2014, 01:32 PM
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  • pc4406
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I have a 700030 and find it to be an excellent brush. Although it has a high loft, it definitely is not floppy. The tips are very soft and it has a resilient push-back face feel. The face feel is very much like that of some vintage Plissons that I have. It does, however, have a considerable bloom to the knot. For me, that is its only drawback.

Although Superior Shave downgrades the handles, I found it to be comfortable and solid in my hand. I use it primarily with creams since the large knot bloom makes it inconvenient to load from most soap containers. I think that it is an excellent brush and gives a Plisson like experience at a fraction of the cost.

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 10-08-2014, 04:11 AM
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(10-07-2014, 01:32 PM)pc4406 Wrote: I have a 700030 and find it to be an excellent brush. Although it has a high loft, it definitely is not floppy. The tips are very soft and it has a resilient push-back face feel. The face feel is very much like that of some vintage Plissons that I have. It does, however, have a considerable bloom to the knot. For me, that is its only drawback.

Although Superior Shave downgrades the handles, I found it to be comfortable and solid in my hand. I use it primarily with creams since the large knot bloom makes it inconvenient to load from most soap containers. I think that it is an excellent brush and gives a Plisson like experience at a fraction of the cost.

Given the large bloom, would the 700720, the smallest in the range, be a better choice? I very rarely use soap so that is not an issue for me.

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 10-08-2014, 04:28 AM
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Thanks for the info, the very high loft made me think it would be very floppy.

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 10-08-2014, 06:01 AM
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(10-08-2014, 04:11 AM)Rufus Wrote: Given the large bloom, would the 700720, the smallest in the range, be a better choice? I very rarely use soap so that is not an issue for me.

I didn't even consider the 7007 range as I was only looking at the 7000 series. I don't mind the bloom of the 7000 but it's nice to consider more options. Looking at the description, it appears the knot is of the same quality. I may have to take a closer look at those...

Also looks like more 700030 brushes were recently stocked Biggrin

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 10-08-2014, 08:37 AM
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i pretty much love my vp 7000 series...
- it's extremely soft without being floppy
- it's dense (i can stand it on it's head no problem)
- it's got the best flow of any of my brushes
- it's maybe shed a grand total of two hairs

i've been bowl lathering with it, and it whips up a nice later... though i can't really comment on how well it works as a face latherer. it has become my go-to brush, and is by far my benchmark. i may want a little more "traditional" handle, but that's simply an aesthetic issue.

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 10-08-2014, 08:50 AM
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I had one and didn't care for it since it was floppy. I like a good face lather and prefer a medium to full density knot...that one just didn't do it for me, plus the handle was hard for me to hold so I sold it.

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 10-08-2014, 10:11 AM
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  • pc4406
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(10-08-2014, 04:11 AM)Rufus Wrote:
(10-07-2014, 01:32 PM)pc4406 Wrote: I have a 700030 and find it to be an excellent brush. Although it has a high loft, it definitely is not floppy. The tips are very soft and it has a resilient push-back face feel. The face feel is very much like that of some vintage Plissons that I have. It does, however, have a considerable bloom to the knot. For me, that is its only drawback.

Although Superior Shave downgrades the handles, I found it to be comfortable and solid in my hand. I use it primarily with creams since the large knot bloom makes it inconvenient to load from most soap containers. I think that it is an excellent brush and gives a Plisson like experience at a fraction of the cost.

Given the large bloom, would the 700720, the smallest in the range, be a better choice? I very rarely use soap so that is not an issue for me.

When I got mine, that handle was not available. Jarrod had pictures up of bloomed brushes and I took the one with the least amount of bloom. I'd ask about pictures of ones that they have lathered and dried so that you can see for yourself. Even with the bloom, the brush was a very pleasant surprise. It is excellent for a face latherer and about as close to a 3 band Plisson as you will find. I like mine.

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 10-17-2014, 04:43 PM
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  • Giorgio
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Well I couldn't resist....my 700030 arrived yesterday from TSS. What an incredible brush! I regret waiting as long as I did to pick one up.

Keep in mind, this is the "smallest" of the 7000 series and here it is next to my 3XL:

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 10-17-2014, 05:10 PM
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(10-17-2014, 04:43 PM)Giorgio Wrote: Well I couldn't resist....my 700030 arrived yesterday from TSS. What an incredible brush! I regret waiting as long as I did to pick one up.

Keep in mind, this is the "smallest" of the 7000 series and here it is next to my 3XL:

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Congrats , that's one beautiful brush. Look so big!!! Perfect brush for you to finish all the soaps you hiding:-)

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 10-17-2014, 05:18 PM
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(10-17-2014, 05:10 PM)Cricket203 Wrote: Congrats , that's one beautiful brush. Look so big!!! Perfect brush for you to finish all the soaps you hiding:-)

This is true Tongue...it will definitely be a huge (no pun intended) contributer for me to be able to see the bottom of some jars Biggrin

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 10-17-2014, 08:47 PM
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Congratulations on the new brush, Giorgio! Smile

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 10-17-2014, 09:38 PM
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(10-17-2014, 08:47 PM)celestino Wrote: Congratulations on the new brush, Giorgio! Smile

Biggrin

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 10-18-2014, 01:44 AM
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(10-17-2014, 05:18 PM)Giorgio Wrote:
(10-17-2014, 05:10 PM)Cricket203 Wrote: Congrats , that's one beautiful brush. Look so big!!! Perfect brush for you to finish all the soaps you hiding:-)

This is true Tongue...it will definitely be a huge (no pun intended) contributer for me to be able to see the bottom of some jars Biggrin

What is the knot size?

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 10-18-2014, 08:35 AM
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(10-18-2014, 01:44 AM)Cricket203 Wrote: What is the knot size?

Just measured with my digital calipers...23mm X 61.5mm

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 10-27-2014, 06:20 PM
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(10-07-2014, 11:40 AM)Rufus Wrote: I'm thinking of buying a VP Leonhardy premium Silvertip brush from The Superior Shave. I don'like big knots, 22/24mm is my sweet spot and I don't like dense brushes such as the Simpson Chubbies. I want a brush with soft tips and good flow through without being floppy. I particularly like the Shavemac Beehive in finest and the Shavemac 3-band Silvertip as well as the Thater silvertip. Of my Simpson brushes the Colonel in best and the Jubilee in Manchurian are my got to brushes; not so the M6 in Manchurian, which though nice, is at the upper end of my tolerance of backbone. I face lather exclusively and use shaving cream 95% of the time. The two VP Leonhardy brushes I have in mind are the 700730 and the Custom Faux Horn Premium Silvertip. What do you think? Any comments on the brand itself?
Not sure If you scooped one of these beauties up already, Congrats if you have!...

but if you haven't it sounds like you may really like the Shavemac Beehive in 2-Band...I recently bought one w/ bulb knot and it may fit your tastes very well. You mention your already a fan of the handle shape, so beyond that is a medium density 2-band knot with very very soft tips and backbone that is very similar to Simpson 2-band(more than the Colonel, a bit less than the Jubilee).

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 10-28-2014, 06:25 AM
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(10-27-2014, 06:20 PM)LORDBISHOP Wrote:
(10-07-2014, 11:40 AM)Rufus Wrote: I'm thinking of buying a VP Leonhardy premium Silvertip brush from The Superior Shave. I don'like big knots, 22/24mm is my sweet spot and I don't like dense brushes such as the Simpson Chubbies. I want a brush with soft tips and good flow through without being floppy. I particularly like the Shavemac Beehive in finest and the Shavemac 3-band Silvertip as well as the Thater silvertip. Of my Simpson brushes the Colonel in best and the Jubilee in Manchurian are my got to brushes; not so the M6 in Manchurian, which though nice, is at the upper end of my tolerance of backbone. I face lather exclusively and use shaving cream 95% of the time. The two VP Leonhardy brushes I have in mind are the 700730 and the Custom Faux Horn Premium Silvertip. What do you think? Any comments on the brand itself?
Not sure If you scooped one of these beauties up already, Congrats if you have!...

but if you haven't it sounds like you may really like the Shavemac Beehive in 2-Band...I recently bought one w/ bulb knot and it may fit your tastes very well. You mention your already a fan of the handle shape, so beyond that is a medium density 2-band knot with very very soft tips and backbone that is very similar to Simpson 2-band(more than the Colonel, a bit less than the Jubilee).

Haven't ordered a VPL yet as I'm traveliing, but I do have a shavemac Beehive in Finest, which is one of my favourite brushes. Don't know if I'd like a shavemac 2-band as I find my Simpson 2-band Polo 8 to be at the upper limit of my density/backbone preference and noticeably more dense than my Jubilee.

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