11-02-2014, 12:39 PM
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I'm very new to SE, I have tried most of the well known razors!
Fatboy, R41s both editions... old Gillettes...
but nothing comes near my GEM MMOC! by far the smoothest and closest shave I can get lately!
I bought Ever ready Shovel head 1924, still waiting for it to arrive tho, what else you guys suggest for a close shave? also what blade do u use?

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 11-02-2014, 02:14 PM
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You either have, or have on order, the cream of the crop IMO. Sure there are others, but none so aggressive with as long lasting a shave.

After that, if they don't do it for you, are the modern SE razor builds. Or a depilatory.

Frankly, I'm surprised the '11 R41 didn't give the shave you wanted.

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 11-02-2014, 02:21 PM
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(11-02-2014, 02:14 PM)ShadowsDad Wrote: You either have, or have on order, the cream of the crop IMO. Sure there are others, but none so aggressive with as long lasting a shave.

After that, if they don't do it for you, are the modern SE razor builds. Or a depilatory.

Frankly, I'm surprised the '11 R41 didn't give the shave you wanted.
2011 R41 tore me up and didn't satisfy me in terms of close shave

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 11-02-2014, 03:52 PM
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Sergeant, your story sounds very similar to mine. I also didn't care for the '11 R41. The blade he way too much chatter and it tore me up something awful. As far as video brave SEs go for the shoe you like I think you are at the pinnacle. Perhaps a Clog Pruf for a slightly less aggressive shave if you ever desire such a thing.

Otherwise, you will need to try the modern SE options such as the Mongoose, Cobra, & upcoming HuntLee.

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 11-02-2014, 04:43 PM
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There is the Streamline. They come at a premium tho. Not sure how the shave compares to your MMOC. It is in my top 5!

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 11-02-2014, 05:37 PM
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The Streamline is a beauty and most assuredly the most well built vintage SE out there in my opinion. However, the larger guard bar prevented it from shaving me as close as either the OCMM or Clog Pruf. I was happy to have it for quite some time but I moved mine on to a more loving home.

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 11-03-2014, 05:34 AM
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I keep hearing there is two shovel heads, curved teeth and straight teeth, what is the diff and which one is better for a close shave?

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 11-03-2014, 09:37 AM
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The MMOC is my first and only SE razor (though I'm expecting to receive my Mongoose invoice, any day now). I've only used my MMOC about 5 times so far and only with 1 type of blade, so take my observations with a grain of salt, but I don't get nearly the closeness that I get with my 2011 R41. The MMOC is very smooth, and I like it quite a bit so far, but the shaves weren't super-close. They were close, but definitely not R41-close. I do plan to experiment with other blades in the MMOC, but that's been my experience so far.

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 11-03-2014, 10:04 AM
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See Peter... this is crazy... the '11 R41 didn't give me close/comfortable shave the MMOC given me... maybe cuz i shave everyday? Maybe cuz i have a significantly heavy beard?

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 11-04-2014, 12:10 AM
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Sarge, how long have you been shaving with a blade? The '11 R41 requires (IMO) an experienced hand, and of those hands not all can use it. For those who can it's a wonderful shaving instrument.

Again, IMO, the OCMM has a much larger pool of folks who can properly utilize it. Used properly the OCMM will give just as long lived a close shave as any other razor on the planet including the '11 R41. But it's MUCH easier to use and far less expensive than the modern razors. Heck, that's why I don't own a modern SE razor yet. Shaves just can't get closer than with the OCMM.

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 11-04-2014, 03:37 AM
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(11-03-2014, 10:04 AM)Sergeant Wrote: See Peter... this is crazy... the '11 R41 didn't give me close/comfortable shave the MMOC given me... maybe cuz i shave everyday? Maybe cuz i have a significantly heavy beard?

I would say that my beard is average, in coarseness. I recall many others state that they did not get a comfortable shave with the 2011 R41, but I don't recall anyone stating that it didn't shave very closely. Did you try the steep-angle method? I seem to get the best results with the R41, using that method. The 2011 R41 is my benchmark for closeness.

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 11-10-2014, 02:35 PM
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I tried the OCMM for half a shave before I had to stop using it and switch to a milder razor. The OCMM was just WAYYYYYYYYYYYY to aggressive for my very sensitive skin.

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 11-11-2014, 03:02 AM
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(11-04-2014, 12:10 AM)ShadowsDad Wrote: Sarge, how long have you been shaving with a blade? The '11 R41 requires (IMO) an experienced hand, and of those hands not all can use it. For those who can it's a wonderful shaving instrument.

Again, IMO, the OCMM has a much larger pool of folks who can properly utilize it. Used properly the OCMM will give just as long lived a close shave as any other razor on the planet including the '11 R41. But it's MUCH easier to use and far less expensive than the modern razors. Heck, that's why I don't own a modern SE razor yet. Shaves just can't get closer than with the OCMM.

I suspect that you a correct. Certain razors are not for beginners but do alright in experienced hands. It is all about angle and pressure plus a good lather doesn't hurt any either.

Bob

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 11-11-2014, 01:17 PM
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I left out skin type too. When I first began this shave odyssey I must have had skin like leather, and folks suggested that to me. But I've been taking much better care of my skin and I suspect that it's changed. The last few times I used my '11 R41 was NOT the same shave as when I first got it and I see no difference in technique.

But this thread is about Sarges OCMM so I'll return it to that. Sarge, you asked about blades. I use the bulk GEM Triple facet ground SS ptfe coated blades. They are also known as "Ted Pella" blades, But Connaught Shaving in the UK has the best price on them, or they did; even with shipping from the UK they were best price. Too, they tell you everything you need know right on the package. It's not the industrial blade packaging that Ted Pella sold in the past (maybe still does?).

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 01-01-2015, 09:24 PM
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This morning's shave with the Ever Ready Streamline and GEM PTFE blade was close and smooth.

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 01-08-2015, 07:22 PM
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Sergeant, let us know how the MMOC and the 1924 compare to one another, please.

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 01-08-2015, 07:33 PM
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I love my 2011 R41 but I gotta tell ya I just recently started with SE razors and love them. Only have the Clog Pruf, MMOC and ER Shovelhead and they all awesome razors.

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