11-12-2014, 04:12 AM
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  • Andrew
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  • Austin, TX
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I am looking for some thoughts on Wiborg shaving brushes. How are people getting along with theirs? I'd like to hear some thoughts about the different hair types, namely Manchurian, Finest, and the newer "White" badger. How do these compare to other brands' 2-band? Do you feel a particular hair type works better in a bulb or fan shaped knot?

Post some photos of your Wiborg(s) along with your impressions of it, please!

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 11-12-2014, 05:05 AM
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  • Sully
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  • Cedar Park, Texas
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Hi Andrew,

I'm interested in hearing about the higher grades of hair as well.

I don't have any experience with the hair grades you are interested in. I used this brush for a week. It's a three band silvertip. The knot had some scritch, flow through was excellent. I didn't care for it as face lathering brush because I like softer tipped brushes, it was a great bowl lathering brush.

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 11-12-2014, 06:01 AM
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  • grantmm
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  • Draper, Utah
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I LOVED my first Manchurian from their May 2013 batch. I sold it to buy a Rooney Stubby 3 gel tip. Regret selling it and not simply keeping both and eating a little less that week. It had great support and was a little scritchy at first, but that was going away quickly with use.

Made up for that lose by buying a tortoise Manchurian from Lutebro. First use of that lightly used brush showed me that it was still evolving too. Good support, great for face lathering and soft as I could ask for. Not gel tipped soft, of course, but it is one I will reach for when I don't want to use a Rooney or Simpson 2-band without question.

Borrowed my friend's bulb Finest for the last 3 weeks, but I have only given it 1 use. It wasn't as soft as the Manchurian from memory, but the support was still there with a little bit more "presence". My Manchurian is off visiting another enthusiast a few states away so I can't do a back to back Sad

Cliffs: Buy one. Any one. They are ALL good!

My first Wiborg (and only one with this handle scheme):
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The new Wiborg, I don't have any pictures that I have taken, so here is one from the for sale thread:
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 11-12-2014, 06:46 AM
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  • TheMonk
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I've also been very curious about the actual differences between their 2-Band badger hair grades. The manufacturer's website is not too helpful, particularly in distinguishing the High Mountain and Manchurian:

Finest: Two-band shaving brushes have soft silver-colored tips and a strong black brush stem. The production of 2-band shaving brushes requires very long badger hair, because the black area of the badger hair has to be longer than with 3-band badger brushes. 2-band shaving brushes are powerful shaving brushes with soft brush-tips and they are favoured used for lathering with soaps.

High Mountain: The High Mountain Badger hair is a rare breed of the finest selected Silvertip badger hair. It has luxurious soft hair tips with excellent flow through qualities. This special grade of Silvertip badger hair has a distinctive color gradient with white hair tips and a black colored stem. This rare selection of badger hair comes from the high mountain areas of China and has the ultimate softness.

Manchurian: Manchurian badger hair shaving brushes. The Manchurian badger hair comes from the mountain areas in the northeast of China. The climate of the Manchuria region has extreme seasonal variations with hot summers and very cold winters. The badger hair sourced from this region is a very strong and thick hair with at the same time pleasant soft hair tips.


Based purely on the descriptions above, without any personal experience, here is my attempt at a sum-up:

Finest: moderately soft tips, strong backbone;
High Mountain: very soft and white tips, good backbone;
Manchurian: soft tips, very strong backbone.

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 11-12-2014, 08:24 AM
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  • Rufus
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I've been tempted to buy a Wiborg, but the rather ugly logo on the handle has put me off.

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 11-12-2014, 08:29 AM
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I am interested too but not much selection left in high mountain white. Only few left

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 11-12-2014, 08:36 AM
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  • kiruiz
  • Boellis Man
  • San Juan PR
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Gents:

I just want to know if they loose abnormal amount of hair. That's what I heard long time. If somebody knows. I will like to know if its true or not.

Thanks
Ken

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 11-12-2014, 08:51 AM
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(11-12-2014, 08:36 AM)kiruiz Wrote: Gents:

I just want to know if they loose abnormal amount of hair. That's what I heard long time. If somebody knows. I will like to know if its true or not.

Thanks
Ken


I have one of their Manchurian 30mm knots and it is a great knot; a bit soft and not as dense as I would like, but it has never shed a hair. They are one of the best constructed knots I have seen.

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 11-12-2014, 01:41 PM
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  • Andrew
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Who makes the knots for Wiborg?


Andrew

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 11-12-2014, 01:57 PM
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  • TheMonk
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(11-12-2014, 01:41 PM)Andrew Wrote: Who makes the knots for Wiborg?


Andrew

I know the owner, Florian, buys the finished knot, so I'd say they're most likely made in China.

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 11-12-2014, 01:57 PM
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  • German
  • Simpson 2 Band Aficionado
  • USA
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I had a finest 2 Band. A good knot, but a tad too scritchy for my taste.

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 11-12-2014, 03:45 PM
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  • TheMonk
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(11-12-2014, 01:57 PM)German Wrote: I had a finest 2 Band. A good knot, but a tad too scritchy for my taste.

[Image: XmlyoIH.jpg]

Comparable to Rooney Finest, G? I've been told it's a pretty similar hair.

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 11-12-2014, 04:05 PM
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I think finest is their second tier badger. High mountain white supposed to be softer.

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 11-12-2014, 04:19 PM
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(11-12-2014, 08:36 AM)kiruiz Wrote: Gents:

I just want to know if they loose abnormal amount of hair. That's what I heard long time. If somebody knows. I will like to know if its true or not.

Thanks
Ken

Neither of my Wiborgs have shed. On the other hand, my Tipsoft brushes still shed...

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 11-12-2014, 05:26 PM
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I have a 26mm knot in Manchurian with a Candy Swirl handle & have not shed a hair.[Image: gRSVdlP.jpg]

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 11-13-2014, 06:15 AM
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hey Monk,
Are you 100% sure that the knots are made in china? ?
Did you learn the china knots from Florian?

Thanks


(11-12-2014, 01:57 PM)TheMonk Wrote:
(11-12-2014, 01:41 PM)Andrew Wrote: Who makes the knots for Wiborg?


Andrew

I know the owner, Florian, buys the finished knot, so I'd say they're most likely made in China.

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 11-13-2014, 07:32 AM
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  • TheMonk
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(11-13-2014, 06:15 AM)Cricket203 Wrote: hey Monk,
Are you 100% sure that the knots are made in china? ?
Did you learn the china knots from Florian?

Thanks


(11-12-2014, 01:57 PM)TheMonk Wrote:
(11-12-2014, 01:41 PM)Andrew Wrote: Who makes the knots for Wiborg?


Andrew

I know the owner, Florian, buys the finished knot, so I'd say they're most likely made in China.


I'm not sure at all, as I said above it's only an assumption on my part, taking into consideration his knots are not known to be made from any Western artisans such as Bernd Blos or Lee Sabini, and the vast majority of pre-made knots that are not made by known artisans are usually made in China.

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 11-13-2014, 07:42 AM
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(11-13-2014, 07:32 AM)TheMonk Wrote:
(11-13-2014, 06:15 AM)Cricket203 Wrote: hey Monk,
Are you 100% sure that the knots are made in china? ?
Did you learn the china knots from Florian?

Thanks


(11-12-2014, 01:57 PM)TheMonk Wrote: I know the owner, Florian, buys the finished knot, so I'd say they're most likely made in China.


I'm not sure at all, as I said above it's only an assumption on my part, taking into consideration his knots are not known to be made from any Western artisans such as Bernd Blos or Lee Sabini, and the vast majority of pre-made knots that are not made by known artisans are usually made in China.

Got it. Thanks for the explanation

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 11-13-2014, 08:28 AM
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I also want to try one sooner than later. I think they have some of the nicest handles out.

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 11-13-2014, 11:14 AM
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David, a member on another forum has stated that he has spoken with Florian a few times as he has had a few Wiborg brushes custom-made and he states that Florian ties and sets the knots in his handles that he also turns. I am just reporting what I have heard as I have never spoken to Florian.

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