11-22-2014, 06:00 PM
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I'm considering buying an ATT razor but I'm not sure what base plate to get, the R1 or H1. Something similar or a tad more aggressive than a 34c.

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 11-22-2014, 06:46 PM
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(11-22-2014, 06:00 PM)captain caveman Wrote: I'm considering buying an ATT razor but I'm not sure what base plate to get, the R1 or H1. Something similar or a tad more aggressive than a 34c.
well I love my colossus and have both a h1 and h2 just bought a m1 as the h were too aggressive for me. so r1 would be my recommendation

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 11-22-2014, 07:01 PM
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I haven't used a Merkur 34C, but by reputation even the M1 is a bit more aggressive. If you are unsure though, an R1 is probably the most popular baseplate. You can always swap it back with ATT (within 30 days I think?) if you want something more or less aggressive.

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 11-22-2014, 10:46 PM
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I wouldn't go with the H1 if you want something similar to the Merkur 34C. The M1 or R1 would be much closer than the H1. Personally, I think the M1 might be the most comparable to the 34C, but YMMV.
Best of luck. Smile

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 11-23-2014, 04:16 AM
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I have all 3 base plates. The R1 would be most similar

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 11-23-2014, 05:38 AM
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I have had the H1 and its aggressive but very smooth

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 11-23-2014, 05:47 AM
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  • Shanman
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My buddy hipped me to the FAQ page on the ATT site where there are direct blade gap comparisons which will help you. Granted it leaves out blade exposure, but it will help guide nonetheless. Take some of it with a grain of salt- for instance the Merkur Futur set @1 is way down the list past the H1 and is no where near aggressive as I have read the H1 is. For example: I like a LASS BBS-1 or Weber, and easily shave with a Futur on 3 quite comfortably.

http://www.abovethetie.com/?faq

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 11-23-2014, 06:34 AM
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Thanks guys. I'm still researching but It helps to hear the perspectives others.Sherlock

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 11-23-2014, 06:37 AM
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M1 IMO, or if you must choose between the two in the thread title, R1. The H1 is getting into R41 territory.

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 11-23-2014, 06:55 AM
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(11-23-2014, 06:37 AM)wagstaff Wrote: M1 IMO, or if you must choose between the two in the thread title, R1. The H1 is getting into R41 territory.
I find myself leaning towards the R1. I don't like a razor to be too mild. On the other hand I do like aggressive razor's & have had my eye on a muhle R41 twist as well.

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 11-23-2014, 07:15 AM
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  • Giorgio
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I have not used an R or H from ATT, however I will say that I wouldn't worry about the M being too mild. It may be the mildest ATT offers, but I don't consider it that mild, especially when comparing to a 34c. I found it just slightly more aggressive, but it did deliver a nicer shave. FWIW, I found the M2 much more comfortable for me than the M1...

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 11-23-2014, 08:25 AM
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I have had a 34C for quite some time and am very familiar with how it shaves so I would recommend the R1 if you prefer a shave in the 34C range of aggression.

FWIW, I tried the M1 recently and found it far too mild.. It was near AS-D1 territory for me if only a touch more aggressive/ effective.

I'm starting to wonder if the newer 2014 batches of plates have been changed in any way because many who own the 2013 M1 batches have reported this razor to be moderately aggressive and feel they are even a bit more aggressive than the 34C and Weber Heads. Again, I own both the Weber and 34C and the 2014 M1 plates I purchased a month ago are far milder than those razors.

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 11-23-2014, 02:39 PM
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(11-23-2014, 06:55 AM)captain caveman Wrote:
(11-23-2014, 06:37 AM)wagstaff Wrote: M1 IMO, or if you must choose between the two in the thread title, R1. The H1 is getting into R41 territory.
I find myself leaning towards the R1. I don't like a razor to be too mild. On the other hand I do like aggressive razor's & have had my eye on a muhle R41 twist as well.
I like aggressive razors, too. And I like mild razors, too. The M1 is a little more aggressive than the Merkur 34c, IME. (I know there are contradictory reports -- I don't have an explanation for that. But mine is what it is!)

Since you're talking about comparing the 34c, but are looking into the R41 twist as well, here's my guess: It doesn't matter which plate you get, because you'll end up with all of them soon enough.

(I'm not committed to spending your money, just... guessing!)

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 11-23-2014, 07:41 PM
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I have the ATT R1 and enjoy it a lot. Its not super aggressive and yet its super smooth.

I wouldnt mind trying a M1or M2 plate just to gauge its potential as an everyday shaver.

But one things for sure: after using the R plate, im convinced i dont need the H plate...not one bit.

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 11-24-2014, 04:51 PM
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I'm an oc guy and have an h2 and r2 that I use. I also have an r1 that doesn't really ever get used, but I would recommend the r for an everyday shave and the h for a couple days of growth shave. I prefer the h but if I'm shaving everyday I rotate in an r shave or a weber or vintage gillette shave in between my h head and r41 shaves just to prevent any possibility of irritation. I rarely shave twice in a route with my most aggressive razors.

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 11-24-2014, 08:05 PM
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(11-24-2014, 04:51 PM)shane.greene2 Wrote: I rarely shave twice in a route with my most aggressive razors.

I've never understood this. I can shave with my H2 every day with no issues. Maybe I just have really tough skin.

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 11-24-2014, 08:10 PM
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  • Shanman
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I got the Kronos with R1 & R2 headed my way so we shall see what's up.

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 11-24-2014, 08:13 PM
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(11-24-2014, 08:05 PM)jagardn Wrote:
(11-24-2014, 04:51 PM)shane.greene2 Wrote: I rarely shave twice in a route with my most aggressive razors.

I've never understood this. I can shave with my H2 every day with no issues. Maybe I just have really tough skin.
Honestly, if I take my time use a good soap, I could use the h2 and r41 everyday, but I rotate through soaps and don't always have time to slow down so I make my rotation so that I have a day to rest in between aggressive shaves and never worry about burn. Plus it's like needing several days for a brush to dry. ..gives me a reason to own, try, and rotate more hardware

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 11-25-2014, 12:40 AM
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  • Lando
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Haven't used the 34C or EJ89 in a while, but I thought both were fairly mild razors. I've used the merkur slant comfortably for many years.

The R1 I find pretty aggressive and always leaves my face somewhat raw. I've used both shallow and steep angles. The large blade exposure combined with moderate blade gap are the culprits I believe. I'm trading it in for an M1 base plate.

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 11-25-2014, 02:18 AM
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Not familiar with the 34C. All I'll add to this discussion is that the M1/R1/H1 all shave smooth. In other words the shaving experience will feel much milder than the aggressiveness of the head. I came from a DE89 and found the M1 really not all that different (using the same handles).

If you're in the US then Stan will gladly change out the heads within the first 30 days if you happen to choose wrong. Good luck with your decision.

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