11-23-2014, 04:42 PM
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I may be in the market for a stainless de but there are many mixed opinions on brands. Ikon I thought was highly regarded, but on another forum I visit most say they are either poor poducts or bad customer service. Whatever. I use an r41 with success but its a bit harsh some days and I dont alway have time for it. My other razor I use is a shimmed merkur 25c oc. I like it but I need it shimmed and still need a little pressure to get a dfs s o something between is what I need I guess.

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 11-23-2014, 05:58 PM
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I like the Weber PH with the Bulldog handle. You can also get it with the longer, slimmer classic handle, or the Wave handle. The workmanship is excellent, it's made in America, and it's a great value at $70.

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 11-23-2014, 07:50 PM
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For me theres 2 SS brands that stand out, ATT and Ikon. (Personal opinion only)

Ikon handles are nice but you will have to figure out which head works best for your needs. Ditto ATT, although they feel far better made in my hand....and the price differential reflects it.

You dont have to worry about service issues since Bullgoose Shaving sells both and provides excellent customer service.

Inlike SS razors...they feel substantial in the hand, like precision tools and will look great decades later with minimal care.

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 11-23-2014, 08:04 PM
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att first but expensive, you will need to dial in the proper base, ikon close also pricey, weber is a great shaver for a reasonable price. surprises me each time I pick it up. I have changed so many handles I have to look.

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 11-23-2014, 09:48 PM
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The Weber PH is a great value and a very good shaver.

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 11-24-2014, 02:53 AM
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Another plus on the weber

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 11-24-2014, 04:44 AM
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Thanks didnt dawn on me about bulgoose. So are there issues with weber having a wavy blade and does ikons dlc coating really flake off easily? I like open combs but if the weber is efficient and smooth thats ok. But thanks fellas.

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 11-24-2014, 04:49 AM
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Having had all 3 brands (ATT, iKon, Weber), ATT is the one I use. That is due to the variety of heads that you can exchange from ATT-M for Milder, R for Regular and H for Heavy beard type.

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 11-24-2014, 07:48 AM
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I used/had all 3 brands before and they are all very good high quality stainless pieces, I reach for my ATT & Ikon DLC most often. I've had the DLC Slant since it came out and don't have any problems with the finish or the DLC coating itself, its one of the smoothest gliding/shearing razors I have... I'm even considering moving up to the B1 coating.


I've had positive experiences.. the complainers will be more vocal as I can understand.. but don't let it deter you from enjoying a stainless razor.. it gives an incredible feel in hand which ever 3 you pick.

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 11-24-2014, 08:55 AM
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My favourite still is the Feather AS-D2. Unsurpassed quality and finishing, but beware... it's a really mild razor. I like it that way, though, but maybe it's not the one for you.

Never tried ATT or Weber, but the 2 iKon I've tried (slant and OSS) failed to impress me and were quickly sold.

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 11-24-2014, 10:57 AM
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The Weber (head) & Feather head & handle) are sintered stainless steel not machined. Totally machining a razor out of stainless steel is extremely expensive and sometimes results in machining marks. The iKon Shavecraft 102 slant for the money is a very nice razor and it's performance is excellent. IMHO

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 11-24-2014, 11:45 AM
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(11-24-2014, 10:57 AM)slantman Wrote: The Weber (head) & Feather head & handle) are sintered stainless steel not machined. Totally machining a razor out of stainless steel is extremely expensive and sometimes results in machining marks. The iKon Shavecraft 102 slant for the money is a very nice razor and it's performance is excellent. IMHO

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 11-24-2014, 12:22 PM
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(11-24-2014, 10:57 AM)slantman Wrote: The Weber (head) & Feather head & handle) are sintered stainless steel not machined. Totally machining a razor out of stainless steel is expensive

Damn! Damn! Damn! I did not know that! A Feather was on my wish list, but now it's firmly back in the ATT camp.

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 11-24-2014, 12:46 PM
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I use the ATT R2 and H2 exclusively for my DE razor. Terrific razors.

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 11-24-2014, 02:39 PM
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(11-24-2014, 10:57 AM)slantman Wrote: The Weber (head) & Feather head & handle) are sintered stainless steel not machined. Totally machining a razor out of stainless steel is extremely expensive and sometimes results in machining marks. The iKon Shavecraft 102 slant for the money is a very nice razor and it's performance is excellent. IMHO

The Ikon heads are sintered, as well. The ShaveCraft heads are machined but not stainless steel.

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 11-25-2014, 05:48 AM
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(11-24-2014, 10:57 AM)slantman Wrote: The Weber (head) & Feather head & handle) are sintered stainless steel not machined. Totally machining a razor out of stainless steel is extremely expensive and sometimes results in machining marks. [...]

Nice! That's probably why the quality and finishing of the Feather razor is way better than iKons and the likes...Biggrin

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 11-25-2014, 06:05 AM
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I've got a Weber and ATT. Had an Ikon Slant too but sold it. Here is my take on the 3 of them.

Weber - great value. Mine had the wavy blade syndrome but it was easily fixed by flattening the rails on the baseplate. It's a great shaver now but when I got it the corners of the blade stuck up a little and so it was a very rough shaver until I figured out why that was and fixed it. I probably would have returned it but I was new to DE at the time and put the roughness off on my technique. I'm glad I kept it though since now it's definitely a favorite razor.

ATT - excellent quality but you pay for what you get. I really like the H2. If you like the R41, some people say the H2 is almost aggressive with much more smoothness. I haven't tried an R41 so I couldn't say personally.

Ikon Slant - Good shaver but the coating on the head caused blades to rust very quickly. I couldn't even leave a blade in that razor for one day. I guess it's not that hard to take the blade out every day and dry everything but that issue combined with my realization that slants don't really seem to give me any better shaves made me decide I didn't really need to keep this one.

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 11-25-2014, 07:13 AM
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Looks like ATT is definitely the way to go for proper quality though. It's worth the extra, in my opinion.

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 11-26-2014, 08:34 PM
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In my experience ATT is the way to go.

And may I add that whatever customer service problems iKon was having some time ago, Greg has gone to lengths to make up for it and has greatly improved in all aspects. You can buy from him without a worry now.

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 11-27-2014, 04:45 PM
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(11-25-2014, 06:05 AM)hydro-magic Wrote: ...

ATT - excellent quality but you pay for what you get. I really like the H2. If you like the R41, some people say the H2 is almost aggressive with much more smoothness. I haven't tried an R41 so I couldn't say personally.
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I have tried both the R41-2011 and R41-2013 as well as the ATT H2. I like the R41-13, but the ATT really is smoother and yet nearly as effective. I have never regretted paying the price for my ATT. Indeed, I like my H2 so much, I pre-ordered the ATT S2 slant.

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