11-24-2014, 05:44 PM
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For those who are far more familiar with vintage SE razors than I, will you please advise of the interchangeability of handles for various SE razors. (i.e.: Ever Ready, GEM, Star, etc.) I just purchased an Ever Ready 1914 for the sole purpose of trying to make reproduction handles (with a new LAW twist). What other razors will this handle fit? How many people would be interested in new stainless steel handles for their vintage SE razors?

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 11-24-2014, 08:42 PM
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There are 2 basic threads for vintage SE razors. The small thread that you made and another larger thread. It's easy enough to find spare handles with the larger threads from razors with heads that aren't worth saving, but unless there is more than 1 thread on the ER '14 you made the one that folks need.

What does it fit? Most all lather catchers that I've ever seen and at least one of the GEM 1912 models. The problem with it is that taps and dies are no longer made, it's a long obsolete thread. I can give you the diameter and pitch if you need it.

I'll PM you.

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 11-24-2014, 09:19 PM
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I pretty much gave up on the Streamline adapter idea due to the fact that any adapter attached to it would look really bizarre.

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 11-25-2014, 12:17 AM
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(11-24-2014, 05:44 PM)twallis Wrote: For those who are far more familiar with vintage SE razors than I, will you please advise of the interchangeability of handles for various SE razors. (i.e.: Ever Ready, GEM, Star, etc.) I just purchased an Ever Ready 1914 for the sole purpose of trying to make reproduction handles (with a new LAW twist). What other razors will this handle fit? How many people would be interested in new stainless steel handles for their vintage SE razors?
Im very interested in a handle for my SEs, I enjoy the razors but hate the handles, too thin and light. As long as you ship international you can count on selling one to me.... If the are thicker and heavier.

A great idea!

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 11-25-2014, 12:43 AM
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(11-24-2014, 05:44 PM)twallis Wrote: For those who are far more familiar with vintage SE razors than I, will you please advise of the interchangeability of handles for various SE razors. (i.e.: Ever Ready, GEM, Star, etc.) I just purchased an Ever Ready 1914 for the sole purpose of trying to make reproduction handles (with a new LAW twist). What other razors will this handle fit? How many people would be interested in new stainless steel handles for their vintage SE razors?

There are two thread sizes. The Ever Ready 1914 that you have has the smaller thread (something close to 8-32). This is also used on the Gem 1912 Damaskeene series, some other 1912's that have a curved top plate, and most Lather Catchers.

The larger 10-32 thread is used on the Ever Ready 1924, the majority of 1912's, and Valet Auto Strops.

It is the same thread used in DE handles. I have used a setscrew to mount a modern DE handle on some of these razors.

[Image: 0pfaMIQ.jpg]

I would be extremely interested in a stainless handle with the smaller thread to fit a 1914 or Gem Damaskeene.

-Bob

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 11-25-2014, 08:58 AM
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Troy, absolutely! I am very interested in a stainless steel handle for my vintage SE's (preferably 1914).

+1 what Keith said. The stock handle that came with the 1914 is way too light and thin and short for my liking. A more modern sized handle with a lot more weight would make it even better shaver.

Spidey, how much more efficient did the extra weight of the SS handle make the razor? The light handles of the early SE's force you to use more pressure, which I don't like.

http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthread....er-Catcher

Here is a post from another forum showing a custom handle on an older SE. It can be done it seems!

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 11-25-2014, 10:14 AM
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I'm a big proponent of the "Use no pressure at all - let the weight of the razor do the cutting" school of thought, so when I got into SE razors, I immediately started looking at different handles. In addition, I love the "grippiness" of modern, deeply knurled stainless steel handles.

The modern handles really work for me with the 1912, allowing me to easily use that "no pressure" style of shaving.

Here is a 1924 Shovelhead with a Weber Bulldog handle:

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This is a great shaver, but it demands respect - it is seriously aggressive.

I have actually purchased a user grade 1914 with the intention of drilling out and tapping the handle mount to take the larger thread size. It would be awesome to have an alternative to doing that.

--Bob

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 11-25-2014, 02:38 PM
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Awesome Spidey! I loooove SE razors because of rigid blade and no flex. 1924 looks awesome with a hefty handle! No doubt it helps with efficiency!

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 11-25-2014, 05:22 PM
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That set screw looks and works great, and its an easy adapter.

(11-25-2014, 12:43 AM)spidey9 Wrote:
(11-24-2014, 05:44 PM)twallis Wrote: For those who are far more familiar with vintage SE razors than I, will you please advise of the interchangeability of handles for various SE razors. (i.e.: Ever Ready, GEM, Star, etc.) I just purchased an Ever Ready 1914 for the sole purpose of trying to make reproduction handles (with a new LAW twist). What other razors will this handle fit? How many people would be interested in new stainless steel handles for their vintage SE razors?

There are two thread sizes. The Ever Ready 1914 that you have has the smaller thread (something close to 8-32). This is also used on the Gem 1912 Damaskeene series, some other 1912's that have a curved top plate, and most Lather Catchers.

The larger 10-32 thread is used on the Ever Ready 1924, the majority of 1912's, and Valet Auto Strops.

It is the same thread used in DE handles. I have used a setscrew to mount a modern DE handle on some of these razors.

[Image: 0pfaMIQ.jpg]

I would be extremely interested in a stainless handle with the smaller thread to fit a 1914 or Gem Damaskeene.

-Bob

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 11-26-2014, 03:16 AM
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Spidey, did you just use a set screw for the 1924 and 1912 models?

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 11-26-2014, 08:59 AM
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(11-26-2014, 03:16 AM)Kyle 3 Pass Wrote: Spidey, did you just use a set screw for the 1924 and 1912 models?

Yes. The 1912 (most of them) and 1924 have a 10-32 thread for the handle, which is the same as a 3 piece DE razor, so all that is necessary is to convert the female thread on the handle to a male.

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I like to put a dab of thread locker on the setscrew to keep it in place when changing heads. This is not required and should not be done if you ever again intend to use the handle on a DE razor.

Ufortunately, the 1914, some 1912's such as the Gem Damaskeenes, and Lather Catchers use a smaller thread - which is why I would be extremely interested in custom handles for these models.

--Bob

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 11-26-2014, 09:36 AM
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Thank you very much for the picture Spidey! I am going to look for a Gem Junior and buy a 10-32 set screw to give it a go!

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 11-26-2014, 09:58 AM
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Very interesting information! Thank you for sharing.Smile

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