11-26-2014, 08:49 AM
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Hi All

This next coming month I am going to have to lay off the shave related purchases a bit Sad and was thinking that if I am only going to buy one shaving item that it should be a high end shaving soap. I was thinking maybe a Penhaligon shaving soap but don't really know if they are any good. Has anyone used a Penhaligon Shaving Soap recently and if so was any good? If not then what other high end shaving soap would you recommend ?

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 11-26-2014, 08:59 AM
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The current formulations of Penhaligon's are excellent. The formula just prior to this one was NOT, so if you decide to pick one up just make sure it's the new/current formula and not "leftovers." Buying from a reputable source like Bullgoose eliminates that risk Biggrin

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 11-26-2014, 09:07 AM
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(11-26-2014, 08:59 AM)Giorgio Wrote: The current formulations of Penhaligon's are excellent. The formula just prior to this one was NOT, so if you decide to pick one up just make sure it's the new/current formula and not "leftovers." Buying from a reputable source like Bullgoose eliminates that risk Biggrin
got a bayolea soap month or so ago. this is one of the finest I have. lathers like a pro and has a wonderful smell. I have a similar creed soap next to it and it is nice but I grab the pens a whole lot more and have more smiles with the bayolea.

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 11-26-2014, 09:11 AM
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(11-26-2014, 09:07 AM)daveinsweethome Wrote: got a bayolea soap month or so ago. this is one of the finest I have. lathers like a pro and has a wonderful smell. I have a similar creed soap next to it and it is nice but I grab the pens a whole lot more and have more smiles with the bayolea.

I have yet to try Bayolea.... Sad I have heard nothing but good things about the scent.

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 11-26-2014, 09:13 AM
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Current formulation Penhaligon's soaps are very good stuff but, as previously stated, the previous formulation is not.
Until recently, I know only the soaps that came with the wooden bowl were guaranteed to be of this latest formulation, so if you do buy, please take this into account.

I have the Sartorial EdT and Shaving Soap, and they pair beautifully. It's actually one of my current favorite fragrances. Haven't tried the Bayolea yet, but I will soon.

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 11-26-2014, 09:23 AM
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(11-26-2014, 09:13 AM)TheMonk Wrote: Current formulation Penhaligon's soaps are very good stuff but, as previously stated, the previous formulation is not.
Until recently, I know only the soaps that came with the wooden bowl were guaranteed to be of this latest formulation, so if you do buy, please take this into account.

Thanks , if I ordered from the Penhaligons website I am guessing that the stock would be the newest formulation?

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 11-26-2014, 09:26 AM
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(11-26-2014, 09:23 AM)shoulderpet Wrote:
(11-26-2014, 09:13 AM)TheMonk Wrote: Current formulation Penhaligon's soaps are very good stuff but, as previously stated, the previous formulation is not.
Until recently, I know only the soaps that came with the wooden bowl were guaranteed to be of this latest formulation, so if you do buy, please take this into account.

Thanks , if I ordered from the Penhaligons website I am guessing that the stock would be the newest formulation?

If you order the soap w/ wooden bowl, absolutely. Otherwise, I really couldn't say.

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 11-26-2014, 09:46 AM
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I should really try this soap to finally abate my curiosity! Biggrin

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 11-26-2014, 10:07 AM
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(11-26-2014, 09:46 AM)celestino Wrote: I should really try this soap to finally abate my curiosity! Biggrin

If you do decide to try them, Celestino, go for the Sartorial. Wink

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 11-26-2014, 10:19 AM
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(11-26-2014, 10:07 AM)TheMonk Wrote: If you do decide to try them, Celestino, go for the Sartorial. Wink


Celestino must also try the best Fern scent ever made Biggrin

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 11-26-2014, 10:30 AM
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(11-26-2014, 10:19 AM)lu20vt Wrote:
(11-26-2014, 10:07 AM)TheMonk Wrote: If you do decide to try them, Celestino, go for the Sartorial. Wink


Celestino must also try the best Fern scent ever made Biggrin


Indeed, EF is very good, despite more classical. Buy both, Celestino! Biggrin

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 11-26-2014, 10:44 AM
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(11-26-2014, 09:26 AM)TheMonk Wrote:
(11-26-2014, 09:23 AM)shoulderpet Wrote:
(11-26-2014, 09:13 AM)TheMonk Wrote: Current formulation Penhaligon's soaps are very good stuff but, as previously stated, the previous formulation is not.
Until recently, I know only the soaps that came with the wooden bowl were guaranteed to be of this latest formulation, so if you do buy, please take this into account.

Thanks , if I ordered from the Penhaligons website I am guessing that the stock would be the newest formulation?

If you order the soap w/ wooden bowl, absolutely. Otherwise, I really couldn't say.

Absolutely, yes, if you buy with the wooden bowl. This will be the newer formulation of Blenheim Bouquet and, also, the new scents of Sartorial and Bayolea.
Pen's is still selling refills of both the BB and the English Fern(to be discontinued). Contrary to what has been said, these are also pretty good, although not as good as the new formulation. The previous manufacturer produced for a limited time, these two scents in a better formulation, before going in to receivership. They are differentiated from their poorer relations by having "English Fern" and "Blenhein Bouquet Shaving Soap" engraved on their surface. The duds will simply say "PENHALIGONS" instead.

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 11-26-2014, 11:16 AM
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David & Luis, thank you both for your recommendations.
I will think about it! Biggrin

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 11-26-2014, 11:28 AM
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(11-26-2014, 11:16 AM)celestino Wrote: David & Luis, thank you both for your recommendations.
I will think about it! Biggrin

Signs011Biggrin

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 11-26-2014, 05:39 PM
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New formula is excellent.

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 11-26-2014, 05:44 PM
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(11-26-2014, 10:44 AM)Optometrist Wrote: Pen's is still selling refills of both the BB and the English Fern(to be discontinued).

EF is to be discontinued? EF and Sartorial are their two best scents.

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 11-26-2014, 05:52 PM
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Blenheim lives on in the new formula, with Bayolea and Sartorial. Makes me wonder why EF didn't survive the resurrection of Penhaligons.

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 11-27-2014, 03:25 AM
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(11-26-2014, 05:44 PM)wingdo Wrote:
(11-26-2014, 10:44 AM)Optometrist Wrote: Pen's is still selling refills of both the BB and the English Fern(to be discontinued).

EF is to be discontinued? EF and Sartorial are their two best scents.

Yes, Doug....unfortunately so. Pen's confirmed this to me last year. That's why it hasn't been reformulated and is only available as a refill. That said, they must be selling very slowly to have gone on for this long.

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 11-27-2014, 05:50 AM
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As everyone already mentioned the current formula is fantastic. 2009-2013 formula is horrible. Pre-2009 was tallow and was also fantastic.

I wish there was an easy way to identify the pucks, to determine which formula it is. Maybe side by side comparisons of the pucks, anyone? Wink

I have a NOS vintage tallow and I'm thinking about buying a current formula, so it's just the crappy 09-13 version I'm unsure about.

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 11-27-2014, 07:23 AM
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(11-27-2014, 05:50 AM)TomTomTuning Wrote: As everyone already mentioned the current formula is fantastic. 2009-2013 formula is horrible. Pre-2009 was tallow and was also fantastic.

I wish there was an easy way to identify the pucks, to determine which formula it is. Maybe side by side comparisons of the pucks, anyone? Wink

I have a NOS vintage tallow and I'm thinking about buying a current formula, so it's just the crappy 09-13 version I'm unsure about.


Tom, if you are buying Sartorial or Bayolea, it is straightforward. These are new scents and are only available in the newer formulation. They are white in colour and only sold in the new dark wooden bowls.

The so called EF &BB "duds" of 2009-2013 are very easily identifiable. They are green and pinky coloured, respectively, like their tallow versions, but have a different inscription to the tallow. They will both have "PENHALIGONS" in the surface.

The tallow soaps(pre 2009) have the inscriptions "ENGLISH FERN" and "BLENHEIM BOUQUET SHAVING SOAP". You will be aware of this, owning one of them.

BUT this is where it can get confusing.

As I stated above, the previous manufacturer of the "duds" went in to liquidation. Just before doing so, however, they released a newer veggie formulation in both EF & BB scents that look identical to the original tallow. Their performance is excellent. If you buy a refill of EF from Pen's, today, it will look like the tallow.

As an example....is this tallow, or the last of the veggie from previous manufacturer?

[Image: 229a57f2-df8f-40c9-8041-7004846ec46b_zps78d12671.jpg]

Answer Veggie.

I hope this helps.

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