12-13-2014, 01:39 PM
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You know the type - the old GEM and Ever-Ready models. The lather catchers, G-bar, Micromatic, shovel heads, etc.

They were unpretentious, are still cheap, and they are just plain amazing shavers. You can buy some of them for under $10, the blades are cheap (and there are only a few varieties). It isn't as confusing as the DE world.

People who know me know that I have a pretty thick growth of facial hair. They also probably know that I usually use straight razors, and that I have a large collection of DE razors. Still, my favourite no-nonsense shavers are the SE razors.

My go-to SE razors are a GEM Junior lather catcher that was gifted to me by a member here, and the Micromatic. The combination of the blade exposure and the stiff blade makes for a smooth, close shave.

I find that regular use of my usual DE razors leads to ingrown hairs for me. I think this is due in part to the irritation caused by the flexible blades, and my sensitive skin. This was one of the reasons I moved away from cartridge razors in the first place.

While I will continue using DE razors, because I like them, it's comforting to know that returning to SE razors for a while 'resets' my face - gives it a bit of a reprieve.

I once sold all my non-SE razors, so I could just use the razors that work best for me. That was a short-lived abstinence. But, if I were to choose just one razor to use, it would be an SE razor.

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 12-13-2014, 02:49 PM
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Good looking razors. Looking forward to acquiring a few of these.

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 12-13-2014, 06:54 PM
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Count me in, Yohann. I've used over 100 different razors and the vintage GEMs are tops for me

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 12-13-2014, 07:23 PM
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Great... Something else to add to my wish list. Biggrin

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 12-13-2014, 07:56 PM
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The vintage SEs will always hold a special place in my heart.

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 12-14-2014, 12:00 AM
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  • slr31
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I was pondering about SE razors today as well. Used an ER 1914 SE after a long time and had one of the loveliest shaves using a GEM PTFE. Smooth and close. My face was glowing after the shave and I was glowing from the inside. Biggrin

What is funny though is the same GEM PTFE blade in either a MMOC or a Streamline, tears my face up. A Treet carbon steel blade worked beautifully in the Streamline but alas I am out of carbon blades.

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 12-14-2014, 03:15 AM
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  • BobH
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Yes, nothing wrong with SEs. I have a few and they provide close and comfortable shaves. One draw back is that SE blades are hard to find in Canada, at least here locally. Just none to be had. Good thing there is the web.

Bob

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 12-14-2014, 04:48 AM
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My new, 100 year-old prize:

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 12-14-2014, 05:55 AM
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  • Gordy
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Well I only have 1912 Ever Ready thus far and it sure won't be my last - I love it!
The shave is just bursting with superlatives!

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 12-14-2014, 08:27 AM
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The 1912 Damaskeene is an amazing razor. For me it competes with the best razors, regardless of price.

eric.

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 12-14-2014, 09:14 AM
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  • Gordy
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(12-14-2014, 08:27 AM)glassmtn Wrote: The 1912 Damaskeene is an amazing razor. For me it competes with the best razors, regardless of price.

eric.

Don't doubt it, and it's been on my radar for a while!

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 12-14-2014, 09:51 AM
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(12-14-2014, 12:00 AM)slr31 Wrote: I was pondering about SE razors today as well. Used an ER 1914 SE after a long time and had one of the loveliest shaves using a GEM PTFE. Smooth and close. My face was glowing after the shave and I was glowing from the inside.

What is funny though is the same GEM PTFE blade in either a MMOC or a Streamline, tears my face up. A Treet carbon steel blade worked beautifully in the Streamline but alas I am out of carbon blades.
Well, those are all different razors. The Streamline was a bit too inefficient for me (in comparison with my other SE razors).

Also, I firmly believe that the GEM PTFE blades start off a bit harsh and improve after a couple of shaves. The carbon ones start off smoother.

The 1914 is a lot less aggressive than the OCMM. It took me a while to get used to the OCMM, because it will tear my face up if I don't respect it.

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 12-14-2014, 10:03 AM
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(12-14-2014, 09:51 AM)yohannrjm Wrote: Well, those are all different razors. The Streamline was a bit too inefficient for me (in comparison with my other SE razors).

Also, I firmly believe that the GEM PTFE blades start off a bit harsh and improve after a couple of shaves. The carbon ones start off smoother.

The 1914 is a lot less aggressive than the OCMM. It took me a while to get used to the OCMM, because it will tear my face up if I don't respect it.

I think most folks here realize that I have a deep and abiding love for vintage SE razors, so reading this thread is like music to my ears.

Yohann, I couldn't agree more with the quoted text in blue.

I always use a GEM SS blade for the first few shaves at least in a milder razor to allow it to break in, then I'll swap it to a more aggressive razor. Other folks hand strop a new blade. The CS Treet blade that I'm currently using is a really nice blade, but it rusts and really shouldn't be bought in bulk IMO. I have 10 shaves on the CS blade and today, swapping it out to the ER '24 I saw that the blade body is rusting, but where I put the mineral oil is pristine and still giving great BBS shaves with the same efficiency as when it was new. That's not to say the shave feels the same since as a blade ages it feels differently. It's not uncomfortable, it just doesn't feel the same.

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 12-14-2014, 09:45 PM
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Nice photo, Yohann!
I would love to use SE's, but just don't get on with the blades.
I love the look of them.

Enjoy your holidays, my friend! Smile

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 12-14-2014, 09:59 PM
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I think SE razors are wonderful, same as DE razors... different personalities, most assuredly, but I enjoy using both Smile

And since Yohann stared the thread by showing a couple of beauties, here is my user-grade trio:

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 12-15-2014, 04:31 AM
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I tried several and my favorite is my lather cathcher. I just wish I could buy a thinker heavier handle for it.

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 12-15-2014, 07:14 AM
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(12-15-2014, 04:31 AM)keithmax Wrote: I tried several and my favorite is my lather cathcher. I just wish I could buy a thinker heavier handle for it.

Everyone's different, but I actually had Bob (from Bob's razor works) make me a heavy handle for my GEM's and it completely messed up the balance and feel of the razors. In my case, adjusting pressure works better than adding a heavier handle.

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 12-16-2014, 11:24 AM
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(12-15-2014, 04:31 AM)keithmax Wrote: I tried several and my favorite is my lather catcher. I just wish I could buy a thicker heavier handle for it.

Some 1912's and all 1924 Shovelheads have the same 10-32 thread used with modern 3-piece DE's, and so modern handles can be used simply by adding a setscrew. Here is a Shovelhead with a Weber bulldog handle:

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Unfortunately Damaskeene's, 1914's and lather catchers use a smaller thread.

I have drilled and tapped a user grade Damaskeene and a 1914 to use modern handles, but I would be loathe to do that to a lather catcher.

Besides, it's probably illegal - if it's not, it should be. Smile

--Bob

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 12-26-2014, 05:43 PM
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Great to see love for the SE. I of course agree they are top of the list on shavers!!

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 12-27-2014, 01:22 PM
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  • jjfar
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I have used almost all types of SE's,
from 1901 Gem ,to ER1914 ,1912 damaskeene
to all the early schick models ,i now almost exclusivly use
a schick Hydro-Magic. SE's are the top of the Razor Food Chain.\IMHO

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